Does your degree grade matter when you have a PGCE?

For you to have any chance of getting into a pgce course - they do require you having a first or 2:1. A 2:2 or anything lower will hinder your chances of getting a place..

Already got offered a place but got a 2:2


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For getting hired it might depend on the subject area...

from talking to some teachers - PE is now amazingly competetive and schools can afford to be choosy, some other subjects they're struggling to recruit and would grab virtually anyone with a PGCE and a pulse.

Parent governors have input into the decision and are (allegedly) notorious prestige whores who think a fancy university name and/or high degree class are far more important than ability to actually do the job i.e. deliver the curriculum to real world pupils... rather like a lot of the 17 year olds on TSR pontificating on who'd they'd theoretically hire, if they were employers.

So a 2:2 would be safe from a leading uni to get into many schools?

(afaik) In the case of physics or maths, which is what I suspect you're interested in, from what I gather it wouldn't be a barrier for state schools including nice comprehensives and grammars.

I would fancy your chances providing you don't come across as a raging pervert or lunatic at interview or anything like that. (note it wouldn't be very difficult to link your CV to this account and there's a chance someone might not think the name 'tunatunnel' is very funny )

I don't know any private school teachers though tbh.

obv based on second hand information - if you hear different from a first hand source, trust that.

Parent governors have input into the decision and are (allegedly) notorious prestige whores who think a fancy university name and/or high degree class are far more important than ability to actually do the job i.e. deliver the curriculum to real world pupils... rather like a lot of the 17 year olds on TSR pontificating on who'd they'd theoretically hire, if they were employers.

Governors don't get involved in recruitment below SMT level anyway, they delegate the appointment of junior staff to the head teacher.

This isn't correct. A Governor has been present at every teaching interview I have attended and my wife is a Governor and she has been on the panel for loads of teaching interviews including NQTs.

This isn't correct. A Governor has been present at every teaching interview I have attended and my wife is a Governor and she has been on the panel for loads of teaching interviews including NQTs.

This isn't correct. A Governor has been present at every teaching interview I have attended and my wife is a Governor and she has been on the panel for loads of teaching interviews including NQTs.

No governors show up for ours below deputy headship, and not always then.

(makes a mental note to contact Mr M in the future, if you don't mind, for added thesis research)

So in Mr M's case the governors either haven't delegated the responsibility to the Head, or are just showing up out of interest/to give support (in which case you would hope that the governor has appropriate skills to contribute to the decision making process - as many governors do nowadays).

Some of our Governors work in HR and the majority have completed Safer Recruitment training. We tend to rotate two or three for appointments.

Parent governors have input into the decision and are (allegedly) notorious prestige whores who think a fancy university name and/or high degree class are far more important than ability to actually do the job i.e. deliver the curriculum to real world pupils.

At the risk of being pedantic:

The board of a maintained school may delegate all of its functions relating to staff employment in schools with the exception of:

• establishing a selection panel to appoint a headteacher or deputy headteacher;




So in Mr M's case the governors either haven't delegated the responsibility to the Head, or are just showing up out of interest/to give support (in which case you would hope that the governor has appropriate skills to contribute to the decision making process - as many governors do nowadays).