Would you be happier if people stopped following Islam?

I doubt you've ever studied Islam, so you're unqualified to make such an accusatory statement. Although I have heard that Christianity do have slavery in the Bible, but that was of the context it was written in.

And there's nothing Islamic about ISIS (apart from the name). If you truly believe the opposite, then I worry for you. It only plays into their hands, as they slaughter Muslims and non-Muslims alike.

A pathetic attempt to shut down debate.

Slavery is mentioned many times in Allah's last and final message to mankind, space forbids an examination of each example. But just as an exemplar he tells his followers to be KIND to slaves three times (Quran 4:36, 9:60, 24:58).

Why does he do that if he doesn't approve of slavery? Isn't setting them free the highest form of kindness? You would think if he was trying to set the world onto the right path he would make it abundantly clear, without equivocation that all slaves should be free then, and there.

Why doesn't he? Until and unless you can answer this, my point stands. Slavery is condoned in Islam.

As for the Islamic State what do they do that isn't in the Quran or Hadith?

pathetic response. Slavery was part of human society at that point, not just muslims haha. Furthermore many of these slaves had no family to go back to and would suffer if they were set free due to lack of housing and money. In a way, it was beneficial for the slave, as they were treated kindly, given housing etc. However, there were many cases in which the Prophet PBUH actually set free slaves, if you actually took the time to research. You also underestimate that the Quran is telling Muslims to be kind to slaves, unlike many other slave owners which treated them like animals. In essence, slavery is not condoned, it is acknowledged as something humans used to do in that time frame, if slaves were able to take care of themselves, muslims would free them out of courtesy unlike other slave owners (Americans for example), the Quran does say to be kind to them, which you pointed out yourself. The Quran also says to respect the law of the land you live in so thus slavery is banned in Islam in accordance with today's laws.


Wow, ISIS commit murder, a deadly sin in any religion, especially in Islam, killing muslims and non-mulsims alike. If you think ISIS are following the Quran and Hadith, you are truly lost.

Do you ever get tired of just completely ignoring facts and defending someone who you know deep down was a pretty awful person who did pretty awful things?

You're blinded by your own bias and unjustified personal hatred. Jumping on the 'I hate Islam' bandwagon bcos the media portrayed it. Just remember hatred for something means you are forever bound to it. Spread love instead. And also respect the views shared by over 1.6 billion people worldwide. There must be something about it if the number of converts are increasing annually.

The media loves Islam, and goes out of it's way to deflect any blame that could be directed by it. The BBC even calls says that IS are only "so-called" Islamic. This website has been banning people for just posting up unpleasant quotes from the Qu'ran and Muslim opinion polls. Islam's very tagline "the religion of peace" is just a neologism invented by politicians after 9/11. Take a look at the latest Trump scandal: When 300,000 people petition for the borders to be closed after the Paris attacks, the news doesn't say a word. But even the supposedly impartial Reuters was reporting about the petition to block Trump from the UK, even when it only had 30,000 votes.

Oh no, all I have to do to understand how poisonous Islam is is to read the Quran or a few of the Hadiths.

Have you actually read the Quran and not cherry picked quotes to support your own biased view? There are 291 verses in the Quran which promote compassion (which incorporates love and kindness and mercy and forgiveness to others). I advise you read it one day with an open mindset, as in general, if you go looking for hate, you will inevitably find hate, but if you go looking for love, you will find love. A mindset which we should all strive to adopt.

There are 291 verses in the Qu'ran and over 100 call followers to fight for Islam. Hardly "cherry picking".

there are more than 291 verses in the Quran... I just said that is the number of verses containing compassion, ironically more than those which call for fight, yet you choose to ignore. Not all of the verses calling for fight mean violence, it can mean striving for excellence such as academia and fighting for a just cause like the poor and the weak. Violence is only permitted if you are attacked first and your life is in danger. Other than that... :
“Whoever kills a person [unjustly]…it is as though he has killed all mankind. And whoever saves a life, it is as though he had saved all mankind.” (Qur’an, 5:32)

there are more than 291 verses in the Quran... I just said that is the number of verses containing compassion, ironically more than those which call for fight, yet you choose to ignore. Not all of the verses calling for fight mean violence, it can mean striving for excellence such as academia and fighting for a just cause like the poor and the weak. Violence is only permitted if you are attacked first and your life is in danger. Other than that... :
“Whoever kills a person [unjustly]…it is as though he has killed all mankind. And whoever saves a life, it is as though he had saved all mankind.” (Qur’an, 5:32)

Religion is a personal choice and every person has the right to believe in what ever they want

such a childish misconception of 'rights'

You can cherry pick nice verses like that, but in the end I'm never going to find much affection for a text which tells people to strike off the heads and fingers of non-believers.

Ahhhh, the 73493537th time someone has misquoted verse 5.32 and quoted it entirely out of context on TSR in the last few weeks. Did you do that deliberately, or do you not genuinely not know what it says? Let's look at what it actually says, shall we?

"Because of that, We decreed upon the Children of Israel that whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one - it is as if he had saved mankind entirely. And our messengers had certainly come to them with clear proofs. Then indeed many of them, [even] after that, throughout the land, were transgressors.

Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive upon earth [to cause] corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world; and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment"

http://quran.com/5/32-33

Hmmmmmm, not quite as lovely and peaceful as you're pretending, is it? Notice the past tense, 'we decreed upon the children of Israel' - this is citing Jewish scripture. And Muslims complain about critics of Islam taking verses out of context! Freaking LOL.

pathetic response. Slavery was part of human society at that point, not just muslims haha. Furthermore many of these slaves had no family to go back to and would suffer if they were set free due to lack of housing and money. In a way, it was beneficial for the slave, as they were treated kindly, given housing etc. However, there were many cases in which the Prophet PBUH actually set free slaves, if you actually took the time to research. You also underestimate that the Quran is telling Muslims to be kind to slaves, unlike many other slave owners which treated them like animals. In essence, slavery is not condoned, it is acknowledged as something humans used to do in that time frame, if slaves were able to take care of themselves, muslims would free them out of courtesy unlike other slave owners (Americans for example), the Quran does say to be kind to them, which you pointed out yourself. The Quran also says to respect the law of the land you live in so thus slavery is banned in Islam in accordance with today's laws.


Wow, ISIS commit murder, a deadly sin in any religion, especially in Islam, killing muslims and non-mulsims alike. If you think ISIS are following the Quran and Hadith, you are truly lost.

The verses calling for such was after the Battle of Badr,

If it was placed in the Quran then it is meant for muslims as well lol.