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Original post by littlenorthernlass
Excuse me, I've had rabbits my entire life so you don't need to lecture me. Rabbits are absolutely fine to be left on their own. I didn't say anything about sticking them in a tiny hutch.


I wasn't necessarily saying you were neglecting your rabbits. But seeing as OP seems to have no knowledge of what a dog requires then I'm pretty sure they won't research the correct environment for any pet.
Original post by simbasdragon
We would walk it for longer than that, ignore my first post. The main problem is just about it being alone.


Everyone has said this is not a good environment for a dog. Maybe you should listen.
Original post by Twinpeaks
The above comments are absolutely ridiculous. As I expected tbh.

How many people have dogs, and how many people work full time? OP, most people who have dogs also work full time. Just don't get a dog which requires a lot of stimulation (often the more intelligent ones), and be prepared to walk him/her before and after work. As long as they go on nice walks, and are given lots of attention when you are home (I.e, not locked away in the utility room), most are fine. But don't get a highly energetic dog, which requires a lot of stimulation, as I said.


Do you know which breeds tend to be less intelligent/need less stimulation?
Original post by SmallTownGirl
Everyone has said this is not a good environment for a dog. Maybe you should listen.


Everyone I know has dogs, and also work full time. Stop being over the top. As long as the dog gets sufficient attention and walks, he should be fine. And it does depend on the breed.
Original post by SmallTownGirl
Everyone has said this is not a good environment for a dog. Maybe you should listen.


Surely it's better than being in a shelter, if they are given loads of love, comfort and attention for the mornings, evenings, weekends and other 4 days of the week constantly?
Original post by simbasdragon
Surely it's better than being in a shelter, if they are given loads of love, comfort and attention for the mornings, evenings, weekends and other 4 days of the week constantly?


You may find a rescue dog is even less likely to handle being left alone if it has been neglected or abandoned.
Original post by simbasdragon
Do you know which breeds tend to be less intelligent/need less stimulation?


You need to do a lot of research on breeds. It's so easy to buy the wrong breed for your needs! High energy dogs I can think of besides the obvious ones (Collies, Huskies etc) are probably the likes of springer spaniels, beagels, setters. One of the laziest dogs we used to own were whippets (despite what people think!), they would go for a crazy run on their walk, and then literally sleep all day and all night. Honestly, they'd just curl up by the fire and sleep whenever they were at home.

What kind of dog are you interested in?

Also, I think it's a really good idea to get a dog from a rescue centre if you can. There's lots of rescue charities for specific breeds.
Original post by simbasdragon
Surely it's better than being in a shelter, if they are given loads of love, comfort and attention for the mornings, evenings, weekends and other 4 days of the week constantly?


Yeah, I agree with this.
Why would you get a dog just to leave it alone for hours at a time? That's just unfair. We grew up with dogs; but there was always someone home. If the dog gets bored, (and they will) they will end up chewing.
Get 2 dogs, they'll keep each other company.
Dogs can be left without supervision for a few hours, it's not going to kill them. Play fetch for 20 minutes and walk for 10 minutes with them before they're left and they'll just sleep for the majority of the time you're out
Get a cat.


FFS do not get a puppy. :facepalm2:
Original post by cole-slaw
Get a cat.


FFS do not get a puppy. :facepalm2:


I quite clearly said in a later post that we'd get an adult dog.
Original post by Twinpeaks
You need to do a lot of research on breeds. It's so easy to buy the wrong breed for your needs! High energy dogs I can think of besides the obvious ones (Collies, Huskies etc) are probably the likes of springer spaniels, beagels, setters. One of the laziest dogs we used to own were whippets (despite what people think!), they would go for a crazy run on their walk, and then literally sleep all day and all night. Honestly, they'd just curl up by the fire and sleep whenever they were at home.

What kind of dog are you interested in?

Also, I think it's a really good idea to get a dog from a rescue centre if you can. There's lots of rescue charities for specific breeds.


We're thinking of shih tzu, lhasa apso, terrier etc. What do you think of these dogs temperments?
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Original post by simbasdragon
We're thinking of shih tzu, lhasa apso, terrier etc. What do you think of these dogs temperments?


Bit of a generalisation, but terriers tend to be very active, intelligent and 'busy', needing lots of exercise and stimulation. They're usually derived from working dog bloodlines and I wouldn't recommend one for your situation.

I agree with a previous poster, who suggested a whippet/greyhound. They're bred for short periods of very fast running, then long periods of inactivity. A friend had a whippet, then a greyhound/saluki cross. Both had a ten minute run first thing in the morning, then just slept until they next wanted to go out at teatime. However, this does depend on you having an open area of public land where it's permitted to take dogs off the lead and let them rush about - a half hour walk won't have the same effect. Also, my friend only worked part-time and her partner worked shifts, so the dogs weren't left alone for more than three hours at a time. Can't guarantee it'd work over longer periods.

Having said that, if you're looking for an adult dog, many shelters won't rehome to households where nobody will be home for long periods of time. Check their terms and conditions online before wasting a journey or falling in love with a dog. Must admit that I share the feeling that getting a dog which you know will be left alone, is not a good thing for the dog.
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Why the **** would you want to get a dog knowing that you obviously don't have the ability to provide for it in terms of time? Is the dog supposed to be for decoration? In that case, just get a stuffed animal.
There's no such thing as a dog breed that is okay to leave alone for that long. Dog's are incredibly social pack animals, they NEED socialisation to function. They need love and affection and attention and they need to be around their family. When you buy a dog and leave it alone for that long you are causing it great emotional harm, increasing the risk of destructive behaviour and being incredibly selfish. What exercise is that dog going to get in that 8.5 hours stuck alone? Is it going to be walked and socialised? What do you think it will be doing by itself for 8.5 hours with no contact with anyone? If you don't understand how messed up and selfish you and your family are being for considering it then just replace the word 'dog' with 'baby' and re-read your entire post. Dog's have been proven to have the same mental development of 2 year old human toddlers, they have emotions and are able to feel severe distress, loneliness and depression. You think just because your dog runs up to you tail wagging and excited when you come home that no harm has been done?

I'm in medical school and I live by myself in a house and I have a large dog. The responsibility is the same as having a small kid, I wouldn't have him if I knew I wouldnt be able to take care of him and have time for him, he's literally a family member to me and dogs deserve the same consideration you would give a human child. he's never by himself for more than 3-4 hours (the maximum time to leave a dog by itself). I plan my time and my activities around him because that's what you're supposed to do when you decide to have a dog, not the other way around. We're together 90% of the time. When i'm lectures and during long days he's always at dog daycare where he gets to play and socialise with other dogs. At weekends I take him on long hikes, he gets loads of exercise and our bond is great.

Having your mum in the house 4 days a week does not make up for the 3 days a week it would be spending with over 7-8 hours on its own. You want something "fluffy" and medium 'not requiring' exercise? A nice little decoration to "coo" over, take pictures with and pet when it's convenient for you?

If your feelings for wanting a dog were legitimate I would have said to have your dog in dog daycare for those 8 hours. My daycare charges £12 a day and £6 for 5 hours. Alas, your reasons for wanting a dog are entirely superficial and you honestly shouldn't have one.

Get a pet fish.
dingos are quite happy to be left to their own devices all day.

just a few toys like a doll in a tent and they make their own fun

:wink:
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Get two dogs.
Original post by SmallTownGirl
You may find a rescue dog is even less likely to handle being left alone if it has been neglected or abandoned.


No shelter would allow your family to adopt a dog knowing the time schedules you suggested, they don't just give dogs away like candy. Dog adoption shelters do a lot of home checks to ensure the dog is going to a good home where it will be provided for, given a lot of time and love. Especially because often these dogs have come from homes of abuse and neglect and would not do well in places left alone for more than 2 hours a day. Dog shelters can at least provide dogs with socialisation, company and 24/7 care.
Original post by insert-username
There's no such thing as a dog breed that is okay to leave alone for that long. Dog's are incredibly social pack animals, they NEED socialisation to function. They need love and affection and attention and they need to be around their family. When you buy a dog and leave it alone for that long you are causing it great emotional harm, increasing the risk of destructive behaviour and being incredibly selfish. What exercise is that dog going to get in that 8.5 hours stuck alone? Is it going to be walked and socialised? What do you think it will be doing by itself for 8.5 hours with no contact with anyone? If you don't understand how messed up and selfish you and your family are being for considering it then just replace the word 'dog' with 'baby' and re-read your entire post. Dog's have been proven to have the same mental development of 2 year old human toddlers, they have emotions and are able to feel severe distress, loneliness and depression. You think just because your dog runs up to you tail wagging and excited when you come home that no harm has been done?

I'm in medical school and I live by myself in a house and I have a large dog. The responsibility is the same as having a small kid, I wouldn't have him if I knew I wouldnt be able to take care of him and have time for him, he's literally a family member to me and dogs deserve the same consideration you would give a human child. he's never by himself for more than 3-4 hours (the maximum time to leave a dog by itself). I plan my time and my activities around him because that's what you're supposed to do when you decide to have a dog, not the other way around. We're together 90% of the time. When i'm lectures and during long days he's always at dog daycare where he gets to play and socialise with other dogs. At weekends I take him on long hikes, he gets loads of exercise and our bond is great.

Having your mum in the house 4 days a week does not make up for the 3 days a week it would be spending with over 7-8 hours on its own. You want something "fluffy" and medium 'not requiring' exercise? A nice little decoration to "coo" over, take pictures with and pet when it's convenient for you?

If your feelings for wanting a dog were legitimate I would have said to have your dog in dog daycare for those 8 hours. My daycare charges £12 a day and £6 for 5 hours. Alas, your reasons for wanting a dog are entirely superficial and you honestly shouldn't have one.

Get a pet fish.


I clearly said previously that we would hire a walker to come during the day to exercise our dog with other dogs. The fact that I'm even asking this question and doing research into it clearly shows that I care greatly about the welfare of the pet and whether it will be able to cope or not.

I adore dogs, and I'm in the very early stages of researching. I'm trying to find out whether having a dog, with the necessary provisions, would even be possible.

We have been looking into dog daycare, and are just trying to find out if we could afford it, if we can't, we won't get a dog.

Thankyou for your highly angry and offensive rant, it was very informative.

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