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Do all you pro-EU voters realise that the EU envisions a federal Europe?

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Original post by ChaoticButterfly
That'll learn them.

'They' are a part of the mechanisms that ****ed up so badly. They can get ****ed along with the greeks.


Careful with that Edge mate :wink:
Original post by Gears265
The sole purpose of the EU is to centralise all power under one political union. The leaders of the EU and almost every law/regulation passed demonstrates this is exactly what it wants. It wants a single government ruling separate states.

Jean Claude Junker has said it, those before him, Merkel and it's written into the EU constitution.

So how can you not realise what the EU really is?

Do you know what this will mean? It does not matter if the majority of the UK lean left, centre left, centre, centre right, right or both extremes, whatever way the EU leans is where we will have to lean. General elections are slowly becoming more and more useless. Blair and Cameron have practically been the same, these elections are becoming a charade.

There is only one way the EU will go. Don't expect us to get more power or the EU to stay in a dormant state, it only moves forward on its path and with that comes federalisation. An EU wide tax, EU wide healthcare policy, EU wide army (which Junker kindly confirmed while you guys were saying Farage was lying), EU wide justice policy, EU wide education policy.

This will actually affect all of us and at different times in the undemocratic process. They could impose right wing policies which from a left standpoint is an outrage but you will have to live with it. Or they could impose left wing policies and from a right wing standpoint is an outrage and on and on it goes. Whatever way the country leans will not matter.

We at least deserve to decide these policies as a nation, we differ from the many nationals across Europe, to say we are the same economically, politicaly and socially is naive. We are different. And no single EU policy will please everyone, there will always be those that get the short straw. Are you willing to be the one who gets the short straw for a union which is not working at its best?


I see absolutley no point in having a referendum on EU - Cameron will follow his orders from TPTB and will take it. If he is any doubt of losing the vote counters will be bribed and an IN will be announced. This is how the control freaks above the government run things
Original post by Davij038
Careful with that Edge mate :wink:


It's Christmas and I am ill as usual. :boxing:

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