Tories commence assault against atheism in schools

Mine was compulsory. It was hell (mind the pun)

They are legally obliged to teach the national curriculum, sure, but the enforcement of this particular rule is remarkably lax. There are faith schools where children, claiming to have been taught both creationism and evolution on a fair and equal basis, have unanimously agreed that creationism is the more likely explanation for the origin of human life. Draw your own conclusions from that.

You know this is already in practice? In Catholic and Islamic schools. Of those I have spoke to who attend them, either it is never mentioned, mentioned during one lesson in the year and/or is incredibly bias in discrediting it.

Do you actually support the existence of faith schools? I thought the Birmingham ones exposed last year for their actions would have been any reason not to

Imo conscription is an ancient idea anyway - who are you to tell adults what they will and won't do

especially with something like the army. I just don't see what's so wrong with refusing to serve in the army

You can do that in Israel, volunteer at a hospital or caring for old people and so on. The ultra-orthodox community rejects any service to what they regard as an abomination state.

So you're saying that people should not be liable to do anything that is mandated by law if they don't agree with it?

Israel is a country with unique security requirements. It is absolutely justifiable for a democratic state to implement a system of national service where its existence depends on it.

If someone doesn't want to serve in the Israeli Army, then don't move to Israel. It's not that complex a concept, is it? If you think the Israeli government is an evil abomination 666 state (or whatever these lunatics believe), then don't migrate to Israel, knowing that it has national service.

i went to a Catholic school and Evolution was completely the standard model of biological change. an apology would be nice.

Just because yours did, does not excuse the many that don't. As for faith schools. They should be banned, publicly burnt down and ridiculed.

people who ban... publicly burn... and ridicule... ? are they wearing well-cut uniforms by any chance ?

Again, I might be wrong, but I think I said 'what about the general population', meaning those who are born there, not immigrants. Sorry if that wasn't clear

That doesn't mean I have to agree with conscription. I don't agree with it in any country, it's not unique to Israel

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When I think of all the schools I've worked or observed in, the best ones have been CEVA, or at the very least had a Christian ethos.I'm not religious, but would definetly prefer to work in a Church school.

Though I know forcing all schools to adhere to that won't make them all good.

Calm down, I said I was just curious, Christ

That is a bit of an ironic statement considering the blood on the hands of religion. But as you are a man of productivity I guess that could be a waste. I would support converting the faith schools into homosexual bars and clubs though, in fact that might even be better, do you agree?

Sorry but I don't have any interest in flattering your martyr's complex. None at all

I will agree that, generally speaking, church schools do tend to be better-performing schools. But surely that isn't an argument for church schools, but for improving other state schools?

it is marvellous that you are showing the true face of the Opposition, unlike amiable old buffer Jezz. we can see clearly the peril from which our great nation was delivered on 7th May 2015. thank you again.

The great thing is, unlike religion I haven't got the blood on my hands. Religion will always have its dark parts, in fact most of it is dark. No matter what you pro-theists say, you can never dispute that and that is why the argument against religion in the last 200 years has continued to make ground.

The great thing is, unlike religion I haven't got the blood on my hands. Religion will always have its dark parts, in fact most of it is dark. No matter what you pro-theists say, you can never dispute that and that is why the argument against religion in the last 200 years has continued to make ground.

Wow. I asked a simple question. If you'd like to look through the rest of your thread, you'll find I have been discussing religion. No need to be so bloody rude!