German politician: right-wingers chatting online as bad as sex attacks in Cologne

Do you not think there is a greater tendency for Muslims to be more evil than atheists, though?
Logic:
Western social values superior
Muslims more often than atheists have incompatible views
I have the audacity to say their views are evil
By holders of such views, these Muslims are, by default, evil.

Obvs logic is riddled with flaws for debate standards, but thoughts?



Though I do hate some Muslims. (I love being antagonistic. )

Sex attacks are a total violation of the person and often require mental health treatment.

This, combined with the issuing of 'guidance' to women, shows a real lack of priorities when it comes to protecting women in my opinion.

Also, what does he mean by 'adjust'? Surely a stronger reaction is required by the police.

Remind me why you still live here?

You're full of vitriol for the West and Western values and yet you don't seem to have the balls to emigrate to a state where the 'values' are congruent with yours. Your username may as well be Anjem Choudhary.

I don't like him either, but would you take on Muslim values if you took a job in say Dubai? Would you leave because you hadn't taken on their values? No, you'd probably complain about elements of their culture that annoyed you and wonder why they couldn't be like Westerners.

You don't find their opinions repulsive? Wow. Okay.

"Muslims are evil"
"Now, now, do you have a reason for that?"
"Cos government and media told me"
"Fair enough, I agree"

???

You don't find their opinions repulsive? Wow. Okay.

"Muslims are evil"
"Now, now, do you have a reason for that?"
"Cos government and media told me"
"Fair enough, I agree"

???

I'm genuinely starting to think you're a troll. You are so unbelievably slow. It's been mentioned in the news SO many times, migrants have even been videoed groping women and asking them for sex.

I don't like him either, but would you take on Muslim values if you took a job in say Dubai? Would you leave because you hadn't taken on their values? No, you'd probably complain about elements of their culture that annoyed you and wonder why they couldn't be like Westerners.

And I'm as disgusted by groping and sexual assault as you areBut I do not rush to assume all migrants are like thatAnd you seem slow to realise something; it wouldn't normally be newsworthy that a man has groped women. But if he's a migrant, somehow it is 'breaking news'...

Not the best example, Dubai is extremely westernised, you can get by knowing not a lick of Arabic as everyone knows English. Also they are more than happy to take on western workers.

Again, no one says all migrants are like that. We're saying the price of helping all of these refugees is just too high and to force this against us, ignoring democracy is poisonous.There are more rapists per 1000 refugees/migrants than indigenous westerners, that is a stone hard fact proven by your very country.

And I'm as disgusted by groping and sexual assault as you are

But I do not rush to assume all migrants are like that


And you seem slow to realise something; it wouldn't normally be newsworthy that a man has groped women. But if he's a migrant, somehow it is 'breaking news'...

Why ask me questions and then answer them yourself?

If I found Dubai as intolerable as von Gauss here appears to find the West, then I would leave. He is here by his own choice; nobody is going to stop him from leaving and the Islamic State would be more than happy to accept him, so the only wrench in the works seems to be his own unwillingness to leave a state that he claims to hate from the bottom of his heart, which is why I equated his stance to that of Anjem Choudhary.

As ever, scrotgrot, you operate on the presumptions that there's no such thing as universal human rights and that all cultures are equal (implied by your suggestion that my rejection of Islamic culture is comparable to his rejection of Western culture).

You do realise that there have been more than one migrant groping a woman right? It's happened in Switzerland, Helskinki,Austria,Frankfurt and in Sweden.


I'm not as slow as you darling because I can at least know that many of these migrants don't plan to integrate because their culture and their heads are stuck in the 16th century. Most of the migrants are fit,young men who have left their wife and kids behind.

And I'm not saying all migrants are the same, but I have no sympathy for the ones who create an uproar about escaping war and then demanding things and assaulting women. Those ones should be sent back.

How do you know? And that's a bit of a generalisation. As refugee's it's gonna take time for them to integrate.

But I agree, deport the ones who commit crimes, but to dehumanise all refugees because of the bad ones is unfair.

I know right, imagine if we bent over backwards for Muslims like that.

Well you plainly believe the culture of Dubai (or let's for argument's sake insert a less Westernised country here) is inferior; and in fact I would very much hope you wouldn't hold back from criticising it just because you were living there: that would be hypocrisy. It appears to be the difference between us that you will not countenance criticism of Western culture, particularly not by non-Westerners.

I do believe Western culture is superior actually, but its superiority consists in things like ... well, like the freedom to criticise Western culture.

No doubt you think Western culture is superior, and I share that opinion. He, however, thinks Islamic culture is superior to Western culture. So from his perspective, although not from ours, him living here and criticising Western culture is exactly the same as you living in Dubai and criticising Islamic culture.

Might I suggest that, as ever, you are operating on the presumptions of the natural conservative? You can't see things from other people's perspectives, your worldview is the whole truth.

Guess it must be my imagination that Dubai imprisons homosexuals and makes dissidents disappear on a regular basis. Unless those are Western values.

Besides, let's face it, the only reason Dubai tolerates anything at all Western is because without foreign money the Princes wouldn't be driving Ferraris...they'd be driving camels. You think they tolerate Western things out of altruism or something?

So your equivalency is quite brainless when you consider that if you took the western money out of Dubai they'd be finished. Take the Muslim contribution out of Britain, whatever that is, Britain wouldn't exactly be ruined like Dubai would lol.

You seem to have got the wrong end of the stick. I'm a cultural supremacist, yes. I've never made a secret of that. My rebuke had nothing to do with trying to stifle criticism of Western culture; I simply asked him, admittedly in a sarcastic tone of voice, why he continues to live in a country that he despises so much when his version of a utopia not only exists but is both easy to get to and will welcome him with open arms.

I think that's a legitimate criticism of anybody. Asking him to put his money where his mouth almost never fails to be isn't the same as trying to shut him up. He's allowed to criticise; I'm allowed to tear his criticism (most of which is disingenuous -- he's claimed elsewhere that Western culture invented slavery and imperialism) to shreds. That's how free speech works, wouldn't you agree? (even though it doesn't strictly apply on a privately-owned platform like TSR)

I'm not a conservative of any kind (although it's arguable that I tend to support 'conservative' economic policies). There's a world of difference between not being able to see other people's point of view and simply thinking that other people's point of view is disingenuous, stupid, and worthy of being mocked into irrelevance

Like a natural regressive (cheap shot, I know, but you just called me a conservative again), you don't seem to know the difference between tolerance and respect, and seem to think that one can either show both of them or none of them. I disagree; I've no respect for his views, but that doesn't mean that I'm not tolerating them.

Guess it must be my imagination that Dubai imprisons homosexuals and makes dissidents disappear on a regular basis. Unless those are Western values.

Besides, let's face it, the only reason Dubai tolerates anything at all Western is because without foreign money the Princes wouldn't be driving Ferraris...they'd be driving camels. You think they tolerate Western things out of altruism or something?

So your equivalency is quite brainless when you consider that if you took the western money out of Dubai they'd be finished. Take the Muslim contribution out of Britain, whatever that is, Britain wouldn't exactly be ruined like Dubai would lol.