Bad undergrad, Cambridge MPhil - PhD chances?

They will look at your UCL UG 2.2 and it will handicap you against other better applicants

Scholarships will be what they are. Who knows what they will want?

As for the MPhil, doesn't anything above a 67 (old marking system) on the thesis or total course essentially give you "Leave to Continue"?

I didnt know about "leave to continue". I got above 75% on the dissertation and the overall coursework during my MPhil and with conversations with my old profs I'm not really worried about getting in to the phd as much as I am about funding. you're right though....who knows what they will want?!!

Thanks Little Toy Gun. I feel like it was a pure blessing that I got in the first time for the MPhil (which i obviously self-funded) but I definitely cant do the phd without funding. with Gates, i actually feel like i meet all the requirements they set out on the website (or maybe i'm being too optimistic!) except that sore 2:2 from UG which could be the deciding factor....

What subject was the MPhil in? I've got a high 2:1 (first in the final year) and I still don't think I can get in.

I graduated with a 2:2 from a top 20 (worldwide) school and somehow managed to do a Cambridge MPhil (significant work experience, references, etc really helped my case). I graduated with distinction at Cambridge. I applied for phd studies at cambridge, but am worried that they'll look at my undergrad marks in detail since I applied for scholarships as well (gates/trust). what are my chances for the scholarships specifically? will they look deeply at my undergrad marks, or should my MPhil distinction suffice to carry me through?

They will look at your UCL UG 2.2 and it will handicap you against other better applicants

I feel quite skeptical about you actually studying at Cambridge with a 2:2
when they generally ask for a 1st or in some cases 2:1(weaker applicants)

How do you know he went to UCL?

Especially when you're not jumping straight from undergrad, they'll often look at other things. My college GPA sagged around 3.4 by the time I left (I was a real mess in my college years), but I got a very strong transcript from a business degree and some As at Harvard night classes. Add a good proposal (and, perhaps, a shortage of applicants in my area), and we were good to go. So far I'm just touching a "high pass" (the equivalent of a low/solid First), and I have high hopes of doing at least as well on the dissertation. [If nothing else, that will be about material I've asked to prepare, with some help.]

Whether that all allows me to jump to another place (or "The Other Place" for a doctorate, I don't know. But for a system that prides itself on progressively filtering out all but the best, Oxbridge does sometimes give second chances.

Especially when you're not jumping straight from undergrad, they'll often look at other things. My college GPA sagged around 3.4 by the time I left (I was a real mess in my college years), but I got a very strong transcript from a business degree and some As at Harvard night classes. Add a good proposal (and, perhaps, a shortage of applicants in my area), and we were good to go. So far I'm just touching a "high pass" (the equivalent of a low/solid First), and I have high hopes of doing at least as well on the dissertation. [If nothing else, that will be about material I've asked to prepare, with some help.]

Whether that all allows me to jump to another place (or "The Other Place" for a doctorate, I don't know. But for a system that prides itself on progressively filtering out all but the best, Oxbridge does sometimes give second chances.