Jakarta Terror Attack

I notice those who said we should wait or how do we know it wasn't terrorism in the name of Islam have all gone very very quite on this thread now ISIS have claimed responsibility

You randomly assume because it is the most populous Muslim country, that they are responsible, Prejudice to be honest mate...

I notice those who said we should wait or how do we know it wasn't terrorism in the name of Islam have all gone very very quite on this thread now ISIS have claimed responsibility

Who else would it be then?

Do you think they targeted Starbucks (a western company) because they served them the wrong skinny latte?

I notice those who said we should wait or how do we know it wasn't terrorism in the name of Islam have all gone very very quite on this thread now ISIS have claimed responsibility

they did not get enough sprinkles.

Well... suicide is haram (forbidden) in Islam, so looks like someone's not following their religion properly...

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Well... suicide is haram (forbidden) in Islam, so looks like someone's not following their religion properly...

Well... suicide is haram (forbidden) in Islam, so looks like someone's not following their religion properly...

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I notice those who said we should wait or how do we know it wasn't terrorism in the name of Islam have all gone very very quite on this thread now ISIS have claimed responsibility

You randomly assume because it is the most populous Muslim country, that they are responsible, Prejudice to be honest mate...

So it was ISIS then

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/14/jakarta-bombings-multiple-casualties-after-indonesian-capital-hit-by-suicide-attacks

But aren't you usually the one who posts this?

Yes depending on the type of attack and the circumstances

And when we find out when it was done in the name of Islam (they usually are but best to wait) I don't then abandon the thread as the truth suddenly becomes inconvenient.

What do you expect them to then do?

Forgive me if I'm mistaken, but in the case of Jihad, isn't the muslim individual allowed to engage in haram activities? For example, if his mission is to infiltrate an American organisation, and he is required to eat bacon (weird hypothetical but oh well), then he is allowed as it is part of his mission.

Granted, but would you admit that there is a high likelihood that people that carry out suicide attacks identify as Muslims?

Do they think they are committing suicide or do they think they are dying fighting for allah and their death is irrelevant.

Q4:74 - Let those fight in the way ofAllah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fights in the way ofAllah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward.

Only if Allah forbids it. Murder is also presumably haram in Islam for the most part (where law-abiding Muslims of your sect are concerned at least), but then the qur'an has verses like this: "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"

"Truly, if the Hypocrites, and those in whose hearts is a disease, and those who stir up sedition in the City, desist not, We shall certainly stir thee up against them: Then will they not be able to stay in it as thy neighbours for any length of time. They shall have a curse on them: whenever they are found, they shall be seized and slain (without mercy)." (also translated as massacred or horribly murdered).

I can copy and paste too.

It was narrated from Thaabit ibn al-Dahhaak (RA) that the Messenger of Allah (SAW) said: “Whoever kills himself with something in this world will be punished with it on the Day of Resurrection.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 5700; Muslim, 110.