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Old 01-05-2007: 1st May 2007 00:01 #1 
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They've just come out.. Other than St. Andrews, any suprises?
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Well the Computer sciences/IT section is completely different to the 2006 guide. Every single entry surprises me there. I'm not sure how much I trust it due to the vast disparity. I mean Bangor... how... the... hell.
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SOAS seems to have dropped massively.
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http://browse.guardian.co.uk/educati...conomics&Go=Go

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I think it's incomplete.. the articles are dated 1st May and it's just past 1am..

Maybe the database backend hasn't been updated yet? I noticed the dropdown subject list entry contains 'HASH(0x8129b44)' as an entry.. so clearly it's not fully functional.

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Well the Computer sciences/IT section is completely different to the 2006 guide. Every single entry surprises me there. I'm not sure how much I trust it due to the vast disparity. I mean Bangor... how... the... hell.

Neither Imperial nor Warwick even appear on the list for CompSci (Imperial's not even in the dropdown institution list)...

I imagine the subject rankings will be fixed by morning.

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Having looked at it again, I'm going to say that any league table with such massive fluctuations from year to year cannot be trusted. How is it possible that in just one year, St. Andrews has become one of the best universities in the UK? And apparently Bath Spa is top 10 for anthropology in the country. Hmm...
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Originally Posted by fais
Maybe the database backend hasn't been updated yet? I noticed the dropdown subject list entry contains 'HASH(0x8129b44)' as an entry.. so clearly it's not fully functional.

For my sake, I hope you're right .

...although, they did go to some trouble to advertise when the thing would be available. I remember reading what time it would be available in Hong Kong, New York, etc... but not the UK (because we're not important). I can't think why they'd bring it on live without testing it offline first.

I hear Oxford are quite good for studying HASH(0x8129b44)? hehe
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Portsmouth and Bangor 4th and 5th for Maths? Beating Imperial?

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Originally Posted by shady lane
Having looked at it again, I'm going to say that any league table with such massive fluctuations from year to year cannot be trusted.


Last year Southampton were 3rd for Maths, somehow This year they've dropped down three pages Not accurate at all. I wouldn't even use it as a guide; stick with The Times if you must use league tables.
 
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Not accurate at all: impossible that Sussex could score higher than Oxford in chemistry - wtf?
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City and Bristol are better than the LSE for Business and Management studies(it includes finance and accounting)?
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Why is UCL ranked 13th for Chemical Engineer?
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Why is UCL ranked 13th for Chemical Engineer?

That is hardly the strangest thing in the tables. Chem Eng is one of UCLs better engineering departments but still only takes in like 350 UCAS points on average.
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I've just taken a look at my area of expertise, Mechanically Based Engineering.
The right names are up there, Soton, Imperial, Loughborough etc etc but they are, as ever, in a very funny order. Bristol is only just above Nottm Trent, Cardiff Top.
Although Cardiff is a good engineering uni, so I could see a case for putting it up high. Engineering placements don't really matter anyway, as long as they top 20 are shown (and they roughly are) it's anyones game.
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Plymouth gets a higher score than the Royal Northern College of Music for music?
 
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Those rankings look as scatty as ****

This main table dosen't seem too weird, but the individual subject tables certainly do

At least they're keeping their reputation as the ranking table of 'the left field' i suppose.
 
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The rankings are accurate, you just have to see what they're being ranked on (there are some flaws where certain universities don't have certain scores, however). For example, Portsmouth comes 4th in the table for maths because it scores extremely well for "spend per student", "student:staff ratio" and "value added score".

Whether or not its a reliable indication of university strengths on the other hand is an entirely different matter.
 
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Strathclyde Comes top for general engineering #zomg#
 
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Even so, Sussex has a lower score than Oxford on all but 1 count and yet still places higher with a score of 100?
 
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Even so, Sussex has a lower score than Oxford on all but 1 count and yet still places higher with a score of 100?
Not saying that Sussex should rank higher or not, but I think different scores are given different weightings too, which might explain that.
 
 
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