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62 People Richer than Half of World's Population

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Original post by a noble chance
You view taxation as theft?


'Justice being taken away, then, what are kingdoms but great robberies?' (Augustine)


Strictly boiled down, they could indeed be viewed as such. A state making it criminal to not pay, but forcing citizens to pay 'in return' for services that they may or may not use.

Obviously I'm not quite so cynical, nor a sociologist; but I do find it interesting nevertheless. Particularly when the money is often misused.

But in answer to you more realistically, not so much in RL context (since those who would realistically want to pay no tax to receive no benefit at all is extremely limited; but there is an argument IMO against going further than necessary), but frivolously increasing tax is not something to be encouraged. Bring yourself up, not others down.
Original post by Life_peer


It looks like we're going to build our own Elysium… I mean Halo… to get away from the pleb soon. :laugh:


PRSOM !
Original post by Inazuma
'Justice being taken away, then, what are kingdoms but great robberies?' (Augustine


Is justice taken away or increased by our current tax system? Augustine was alive in the 4th and 5th centuries. I don't think this comment was intended for a time with the NHS and state education, where taxpayers money was used for the benefit of the many rather than the few.

Strictly boiled down, they could indeed be viewed as such. A state making it criminal to not pay, but forcing citizens to pay 'in return' for services that they may or may not use

But in answer to you more realistically, not so much in RL context (since those who would realistically want to pay no tax to receive no benefit at all is extremely limited;


Your point here is unclear

but there is an argument IMO against going further than necessary), but frivolously increasing tax is not something to be encouraged. Bring yourself up, not others down.


I don't think anyone's suggesting we 'frivolously' increase taxes. What is 'necessary' is obviously subjective. It's right that those with the broadest shoulders bear the heaviest burden. This isn't about 'bringing others down', and I have confidence that most higher earners are decent enough not to view it in such a selfish way.
Original post by a noble chance
Is justice taken away or increased by our current tax system? Augustine was alive in the 4th and 5th centuries. I don't think this comment was intended for a time with the NHS and state education, where taxpayers money was used for the benefit of the many rather than the few.

Your point here is unclear

I don't think anyone's suggesting we 'frivolously' increase taxes. What is 'necessary' is obviously subjective. It's right that those with the broadest shoulders bear the heaviest burden. This isn't about 'bringing others down', and I have confidence that most higher earners are decent enough not to view it in such a selfish way.


I should probably point out that most of my TSR posts are both far more generic and pedantic than the original post requires :colone:

It's more a response to the crony capitalism thing, which I presume means OP suggesting it's a bad thing, which I don't, I see it as an inspirational thing is all. Also far more productive and healthy for the mind, than wanting to take from others merely because they are wealthy, most people of that mindset coincidentally tend to be far more negative.

The tax / necessity thing is a whole other discussion! :wink:
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Watch this



This is why the Middle Class is dying in America.
I don't care and I find it baffling that people do care.
Original post by Inazuma
See I don't see that and think 'Awful, how do I take it away from them!'; I think, wow, that's rather incredible, maybe that could be me one day.

Aspiration > Theft


Same. I'm already in the top one percent so it's just a case of getting that number even lower


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Original post by Life_peer


It looks like we're going to build our own Elysium… I mean Halo… to get away from the pleb soon. :laugh:


As long as it isn't a halo halo for galactic genocide :tongue:

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These magazines likes Forbes who list all the wealthiest are missing loads of people who keep their wealth private.

Where are the likes of the Rothschilds some people say they have trillions

The koch brothers were not known until years ago as it was difficult to estimate their net worth and now they're one of the richest
Original post by NotWelcomeSorry


Where are the likes of the Rothschilds some people say they have trillions



Some people are idiots

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Original post by thesabbath
The figure cited is $1.76tn. According to the hard left front organisation posing as "charity" Oxfam, this is equivalent to the net worth of the world's poorest 3.5 billion people.

Let's divide 1,760,000,000,000 by 3,500,000,000 and see what they are worth individually:

$500. Each.

If we steal all this money from rich Jews like Mark Zuckerberg we can double that! Socialism is truly a marvel.


except you forgetting the specifically the group of the worlds richest signed up to the Giving Pledge , inc 'jews' like zuckerberg, moskowitz, bloomberg ellison etc who have gifted tens of billions to charitable and health causes. not to mention contribution of non 'jews 'like Gates, Bhargava, Rockefeller Motsepe etc

perhaps we can compare what you yourself have done for the needy.
I don't see the problem with Op's figure. Most of that 3.5 billion are Indians, Africans and Arabs, all of whom are to blame for their own woes.
Original post by thesabbath
He is ethnically a Jew. If you don't believe me look at his nose. If I was citing his religion I would call him an atheist.


Rich "Jews" made their money fair and square while ****-faces like you are sitting on the couch eating potatoes.
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Original post by The_Internet
And youre richer than a lot of people too.

If you take the UK average salary of 25.6K, you are in the top 0.88% of earners in the world.

http://www.globalrichlist.net/

that doesn't make that kind of power distribution right.

and that site is so weird it goes up to £1,719,129,605 of all the random numbers
Original post by Aph
that doesn't make that kind of power distribution right.

and that site is so weird it goes up to £1,719,129,605 of all the random numbers


So when are you going to give up your first world wealth?
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Original post by The_Internet
So when are you going to give up your first world wealth?

Nice little strawman you have there. An argument for multilateral wealth re-ballencing is not an argument for unilateral action.
Original post by Aph
Nice little strawman you have there. An argument for multilateral wealth re-ballencing is not an argument for unilateral action.


However it does establish the hypocrisy of many wanting equality, it highlights the fact that people do not want those before then to be made equals, that entails personal loss, rather they just want everybody above them to be bright down to make themselves equal, a system whereby there is no personal loss, possibly personal gain, and the loss is fur those the individual is envious of.

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Original post by Aph
Nice little strawman you have there. An argument for multilateral wealth re-ballencing is not an argument for unilateral action.


Original post by Jammy Duel
However it does establish the hypocrisy of many wanting equality, it highlights the fact that people do not want those before then to be made equals, that entails personal loss, rather they just want everybody above them to be bright down to make themselves equal, a system whereby there is no personal loss, possibly personal gain, and the loss is fur those the individual is envious of.

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This was the point tbh. Also Aph I like you. I genuinely do. You're a nice enough person..we just disagree sometimes, especially on matters like this!
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Original post by The_Internet
This was the point tbh. Also Aph I like you. I genuinely do. You're a nice enough person..we just disagree sometimes, especially on matters like this!

Thank you. I mean I don't see inequality as a bad thing. Just that when power (which money basically is) is vested in a small minority of people that leads to the hogging of money and thus some people getting more say then they should do.
Original post by Jammy Duel
However it does establish the hypocrisy of many wanting equality, it highlights the fact that people do not want those before then to be made equals, that entails personal loss, rather they just want everybody above them to be bright down to make themselves equal, a system whereby there is no personal loss, possibly personal gain, and the loss is fur those the individual is envious of.
As I said above I woudl be open to a small amount of inequality but when the richest man earns millions more then the poorest a year just because of circumstances I see that as highly unfair. I don't think it is envy at all actually. It might be in some circumstances but to suggest that some people should be able to have more money then they know what to do with whist others don't have enough money to live is, in my veiw shameful. If multilateral action were taken to increase the wealth of the poorest in the world then of course I would pay my part but to suggest a person shoudl give up almost all their money which would hardly make any impact at all just because they advocate that money needs to be more fairly distributed is a total fallacy.

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