The Student Room Group
In the grand scheme of things there is no money in doing research, anywhere. You need to be in the commercial end of things to rake in the bucks.
Reply 2
universities take a huge cut of all staff projects, so does the tax man several times, then there is funding projects. you can earn a little from it, but the tax man will take cash from here too. it's nuts really.
Reply 3
If you were to develop some sort of new technology or develop an idea that is beneficial in a commercial sense, how do you make money from that? Patent the idea and receive royalties, "sell" the technology?
x.narb.x
If you were to develop some sort of new technology or develop an idea that is beneficial in a commercial sense, how do you make money from that? Patent the idea and receive royalties, "sell" the technology?


Well most modern technology is developed in a) a commercial environment (i.e. you own nothing personally) or b) an academic environment (you own very little personally) and therefore you are unlikely to make much money. If you are a budding James Dyson then stick to the garden shed, not the research lab.
Reply 5
Ahh I see, so the respective institutions that you work for own the rights to the research you do?
x.narb.x
Ahh I see, so the respective institutions that you work for own the rights to the research you do?


Commercially? Absolutely. Universities? The vast majority of the rights. Universities think they are being fair because they give you some of the rights (unlike commercial operations) but it is a piddling amount and totally disproportionate to the fact that the university provides only lab space and utilities and you yourself have to find money to pay for equipment, consumables, time at external experimental facilities and staff (read postdocs and PhD students) as well as coming up with and implementing the ideas and fitting this around your teaching commitments at the university on a relatively meagre salary.
x.narb.x
Is there any money in academic research?


None.
Even in the US, you have to scurry around for research funding from various national bodies. If you dont get enough external funding, your job vanishes.
Reply 8
intellectual property? intellectually shafted more like it!!! :mad:
shiny
intellectual property? intellectually shafted more like it!!! :mad:


I think the worst thing with this drive to 'commercialise' is that the academic in question is most probably denied some nice high profile publications that would be far better for their career than a patent number.
Reply 10
ChemistBoy
I think the worst thing with this drive to 'commercialise' is that the academic in question is most probably denied some nice high profile publications that would be far better for their career than a patent number.

The annoying thing is that it isn't even the patent process itself which is slow. It's the bit before when the university has to decide whether your work is worth patenting and them paying for it which is stupidly slow most of the time.
shiny
The annoying thing is that it isn't even the patent process itself which is slow. It's the bit before when the university has to decide whether your work is worth patenting and them paying for it which is stupidly slow most of the time.


Well it's the half-baked 'advisors' they get to do the applications. Universities can't afford proper patents attorneys.

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