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This is the question:

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The head of a piston moves with SHM of amplitude 0.1root 3m about a mean position O. How far from O is the head of the piston when it is travelling with a speed equal to half its maximum speed.

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Is there really enough information in the question to be able to do this?
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Original post by maggiehodgson
This is the question:

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The head of a piston moves with SHM of amplitude 0.1root 3m about a mean position O. How far from O is the head of the piston when it is travelling with a speed equal to half its maximum speed.

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Is there really enough information in the question to be able to do this?


AFAIK, yes. Why do you think there isn't? Call the maximum speed v. Then v2=w2×0.12×3v^2 = w^2 \times 0.1^2 \times 3

Then you want to find x s.t 12w2×0.12×3=w2(0.12×3x2)\frac{1}{2}\sqrt{w^2 \times 0.1^2 \times 3} = \sqrt{w^2 (0.1^2 \times 3 - x^2)} (or something vaguely like that)
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Original post by Zacken
AFAIK, yes. Why do you think there isn't? Call the maximum speed v. Then v2=w2×0.12×3v^2 = w^2 \times 0.1^2 \times 3

Then you want to find x s.t 12w2×0.12×3=w2(0.12×3x2)\frac{1}{2}\sqrt{w^2 \times 0.1^2 \times 3} = \sqrt{w^2 (0.1^2 \times 3 - x^2)} (or something vaguely like that)


AFAIK??
Reply 3
Original post by TeeEm
AFAIK??


As far as I know
Reply 4
Original post by Zacken
As far as I know


danke
Original post by Zacken
AFAIK, yes. Why do you think there isn't? Call the maximum speed v. Then v2=w2×0.12×3v^2 = w^2 \times 0.1^2 \times 3

Then you want to find x s.t 12w2×0.12×3=w2(0.12×3x2)\frac{1}{2}\sqrt{w^2 \times 0.1^2 \times 3} = \sqrt{w^2 (0.1^2 \times 3 - x^2)} (or something vaguely like that)


Yes, you are dead right. I just hadn't gone far enough with my own work to see how to eliminate w.
Reply 6
Original post by maggiehodgson
Yes, you are dead right. I just hadn't gone far enough with my own work to see how to eliminate w.


Great. Yeah, that's always a thing with these questions, lots of terms cancel out. Especially in stuff like circular motion where mass cancels out at the very last step and you breathe a sigh of relief.
Original post by Zacken
Great. Yeah, that's always a thing with these questions, lots of terms cancel out. Especially in stuff like circular motion where mass cancels out at the very last step and you breathe a sigh of relief.


Thanks for the warning - I think that's the next chapter. Oh Joy!
Reply 8
Original post by maggiehodgson
Thanks for the warning - I think that's the next chapter. Oh Joy!


It's a fun one, to be honest. The 'show that' questions are a free 6/8 marks. Enjoy it, make sure you know your energy principles well.
Original post by Zacken
It's a fun one, to be honest. The 'show that' questions are a free 6/8 marks. Enjoy it, make sure you know your energy principles well.


Believe it or not I'm only doing mechanics for fun. I'm a mature student, self teaching. I did A level - also self taught - two years ago. Having been out of education and exams for many many years I almost scared myself to death and wished I'd never put myself through the terror of the exam room. I swore I'd never do such a thing ever again.

So mechanics for fun. I must be a masochist.
Reply 10
Original post by maggiehodgson
Believe it or not I'm only doing mechanics for fun. I'm a mature student, self teaching. I did A level - also self taught - two years ago. Having been out of education and exams for many many years I almost scared myself to death and wished I'd never put myself through the terror of the exam room. I swore I'd never do such a thing ever again.

So mechanics for fun. I must be a masochist.


I can relate with the self-teaching thing, seems like you're doing good, from what I've seen of you so far! So keep at it. Being a masochist is fun. Are you planning on doing M4/5 as well?
Original post by Zacken
I can relate with the self-teaching thing, seems like you're doing good, from what I've seen of you so far! So keep at it. Being a masochist is fun. Are you planning on doing M4/5 as well?



Well. We'll see. At the current rate of progress I might not even get to the end of M3 hahahha.

However, if I do, given that beating my head on a brick wall is preferable to daytime tv/housework/statistics/decision mats etc, then probably yes.

Thanks for the encouragement. Without TSR it would have to be daytime TV and housework. God forbid.
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Original post by maggiehodgson

Thanks for the encouragement. Without TSR it would have to be daytime TV and housework. God forbid.


Ah, that's what we're for! :yep:

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