How people in the West react to reports of terrorism/ other tragedies

Gucci Mane.

lol this is so true.

Seems accurate.

How do people in Africa react to the Brussels terror attack?
Many don't even know it happened.

Terror attacks like in Middle East are by Muslims against Muslims

Muslims are pretty much guests in Europe, and we're being killed and raped because of our tolerance.

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KingBradly

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It's almost like people can't help caring more about things they feel they can relate to.

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AlifunArnab

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Original post by Gustavis

How do people in Africa react to the Brussels terror attack?
Many don't even know it happened.

Terror attacks like in Middle East are by Muslims against Muslims

Muslims are pretty much guests in Europe, and we're being killed and raped because of our tolerance.

Yes, and the US + allies in general are so tolerant that they bomb Muslims from the sky, and those they don't kill, they torture them and lock them up in cages.

Phew, it's a good thing they're not intolerant.

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fallen_acorns

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Threads like this are always stupid. The same ones popped up after paris.

Simple answer:

Its perfectly normal and natural to care more about things that are close to you.

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Reasons why we care more about Belgium/France:

1. They are our allies
2. We share a long history
3. They are geographically close to us (increasing fear)
4. They are culturally similar to us (we can relate and empathize more)
5. They are politically aligned with us

So really.. to all those who are complaining why this attack gets more coverage then other ones.. just ask yourself this - what would you care more about? your next door neighbor dies, who you have had round to parties, and grown up with.... or a man on a different street, who you don't really know dies.

Then promptly shut up.

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Joinedup

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Which is why the US presidents wife has probably never even heard about a muslim atrocity in Africa... wait what.

TBH there seems to be less media reaction to the Brussels attacks than there was to Paris 13/Nov (bataclan) or Paris 7/Jan (charlie hebdo)...

I don't think that's a good thing for Muslims living in the west though or ones hoping to come live here...

Original post by AlifunArnab

Yes, and the US + allies in general are so tolerant that they bomb Muslims from the sky, and those they don't kill, they torture them and lock them up in cages.

Phew, it's a good thing they're not intolerant.

I've noticed we never seem to hear much from muslims drawing attention to how intolerant muslims can be... it's not like muslim countries are all rainbows and unicorns.

e.g. 13 Jan 2016 Quetta 14 dead in suicide bombing at a vaccination centre (allah loves polio?) http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/13/bomb-attack-at-polio-vaccination-centre-kills-14-in-pakistani-city-of-quetta

20 Jan 2016 Charsadda 30 dead in terrorist attack on university http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jan/20/bacha-khan-university-explosions-heard-as-gunmen-attack-pakistan

16 Mar 2016 Peshawar 15 dead in terrorist bus bombing http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/mar/16/peshawar-bomb-kills-15-on-bus-carrying-pakistani-government-officials

but for some reason that's much less tragic than

13 Nov 2015 US claims Jihad John killed by drone strike http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/13/killing-mohammed-emwazi-was-significant-blow-to-isis-says-us

20 Jan 2016 ISIS confirms the accuracy of the above claim http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/jan/20/mohammed-emwazis-death-confirmed-in-isis-magazine

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So to make sure I've got this right - you're saying that islamically speaking random killing of innocent people is better than carefully targetted killing of guilty murderers?

or is it that muslims killing muslims is always better than westerners killing muslims regardless of anything else?

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BaconandSauce

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It's not like we see memorials for the victims of the Belgian attacks in these countries now is it.

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EccentricDiamond

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Europeans are my brethern and of course i regard their lives as more important than non Europeans

Spot on.

Original post by Gucci Mane.

lol this is so true.

Too true! Apparently, some lives are worth more than others, even though we live in democracies, where people are meant to be EQUAL!

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Slutty Salafi

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If a Christian bombed Muslim lands, there would be anti-Christian riots, the West shows amazing levels of calm and restraint the rest of the world should learn a lesson from.

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Jebedee

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Original post by Slutty Salafi

If a Christian bombed Muslim lands, there would be anti-Christian riots, the West shows amazing levels of calm and restraint the rest of the world should learn a lesson from.

Or stupidity and extreme cowardice. We should tell the world if you bomb us one more time then mecca is going up in smoke. That will inspire a bit more self-policing from muslim communities.

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Slutty Salafi

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Original post by Jebedee

Or stupidity and extreme cowardice. We should tell the world if you bomb us one more time then mecca is going up in smoke. That will inspire a bit more self-policing from muslim communities.

You are 100% correct, ignoring the obvious immorality of the suggestion.

Right now we have a situation where powerful nations are being taken on and defeated by weaker, poorer nations. The powerful nations lose because they lack the necessary ''balls'' to just go there. If there were a willingness to extract a price so extreme that it made both the initial act of terror or insurrection as well as any advantage gained (by the terrorists) from revenge attacks for that price extracted, seem pale in comparison, the terror and insurrection would cease.

People say America lost Vietnam because they were too harsh, nothing whatsoever, including My Lai even remotely comes close the level of brutality the Soviet Union showed their enemies.

http://articles.latimes.com/1986-01-07/news/mn-13892_1_soviets

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MildredMalone

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Someone poops in the toilet - not surprised.

Someone poops on the dining table - surprised.

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Jebedee

17

Original post by Slutty Salafi

You are 100% correct.

Right now we have a situation where powerful nations are being taken on and defeated by weaker, poorer nations. The powerful nations lose because they lack the necessary ''balls'' to just go there. If there were a willingness to extract a price so extreme that it made both the initial act of terror or insurrection as well as any advantage gained (by the terrorists) from revenge attacks for that price extracted, seem pale in comparison, the terror and insurrection would cease.

People say America lost Vietnam because they were too harsh, nothing whatsoever, including My Lai even remotely comes close the level of brutality the Soviet Union showed their enemies.

http://articles.latimes.com/1986-01-07/news/mn-13892_1_soviets

Strong cultures require strong rulers. The weak rulers are perfectly capable of ruling calm civilised people who don't have an obvious antagonist. They don't have what it takes to rule strong masculine cultures, which is why the lunatics are running the asylum in Europe.

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anarchism101

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Original post by Slutty Salafi

You are 100% correct, ignoring the obvious immorality of the suggestion.

Right now we have a situation where powerful nations are being taken on and defeated by weaker, poorer nations. The powerful nations lose because they lack the necessary ''balls'' to just go there. If there were a willingness to extract a price so extreme that it made both the initial act of terror or insurrection as well as any advantage gained (by the terrorists) from revenge attacks for that price extracted, seem pale in comparison, the terror and insurrection would cease.

People say America lost Vietnam because they were too harsh, nothing whatsoever, including My Lai even remotely comes close the level of brutality the Soviet Union showed their enemies.

http://articles.latimes.com/1986-01-07/news/mn-13892_1_soviets

America lost in Vietnam because it failed to properly understand how insurgency works. And it seems that you don't, either. Sheer destructive force doesn't accomplish much unless you can provide an alternative to it, otherwise people have nothing to lose by fighting, and plenty to gain. Plus global opinion effectively becomes a field of battle.

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Slutty Salafi

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Original post by anarchism101

America lost in Vietnam because it failed to properly understand how insurgency works. And it seems that you don't, either. Sheer destructive force doesn't accomplish much unless you can provide an alternative to it, otherwise people have nothing to lose by fighting, and plenty to gain. Plus global opinion effectively becomes a field of battle.

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So how come the Nazis and the Imperial Japanese didn't continue to fight after the allies + Soviets utterly smashed them? Equally how come the Soviets managed to hold onto the territories they ruled during the cold war?

There are obviously deep moral considerations, Islamic State, for how menacing they might look, haven't committed nearly as much evil as the Germans during WW2 so the number of dead civilians in the cities they hold would clearly be worse than any safety gained for the West, but I'm still not convinced it wouldn't work in the strict sense of the word.

Agreed

Original post by Slutty Salafi

So how come the Nazis and the Imperial Japanese didn't continue to fight after the allies + Soviets utterly smashed them? Equally how come the Soviets managed to hold onto the territories they ruled during the cold war?

WW2 was a conventional war between states, not an insurgency, so they can't be compared. The Soviets had their failures to understand insurgency too - in Afghanistan.

WW2 was about taking and holding territory, with clear front lines, and defeating states. There are no similarly clear measures of victory or defeat with insurgency.

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