White Lives Matter

lol yeah money doesn't exist amirite

This nonchalence and plain stupidity is perhaps why you ended up at Keele.

Like how whites (in particular the British) were the first race to abolish slavery, whilst every other non-white race continued to practice it, in some cases until very recently?

Okay, so you concede that point.

Of course there were also racial motivations for the slave trade. However, those racial beliefs also held true when we went to great pains to END slavery. So therefore the slave trade wasn't inseparably linked to the slave trade.

You need to prove a counterfactual theory that whites would not have enslaved blacks if racism were not present. Otherwise your assertion is just an unsubstantiated assertion. I don't know how you'd do that.

Furthermore, I think it's obvious that anyone enslaving or conquering another race has beliefs of racial superiority, which gives humans the cognitive dissonance required to do these things. For example, the Roman's justifying their conquests in that they were bring civilisation to "barbarians"; there is nothing to support that racial prejudices were only a part of slavery in the transatlantic slave trade. There is no reason to think that only white people had those thought processes. And there is no reason to think that racism came before the economic incentive, rather than the other way around.

Obviously it's true that Islamic slavery was a big thing and lasted a long time. (It's till going on sporadically in parts of the Islamic world and still seems to inform the behaviour of some Muslims from modernised Gulf states.)

It's hard to compare barbarities, but it seems clear that the systematic work to death and severe cruelty meeted out to slaves on the plantations of the Americas by European slave owners was harsher, more industrialised and more indifferent to human welfare overall than that of the Arab world. Not all Arab slaves were treated decently, but domestic slavery in Arab families was not much like the massive colony exploitation of the cotton and sugar plantations. However, there are extreme cases in both.

Anyway, two wrongs don't make a right.

White lives matter because people say you can't even be racist against us despite being the most tolerant people in the world to other races except for maybe the Chinese and Thai people. So because we are so tolerant that excuses you to abuse us? I don't think so.

Lies. The slaves in the Arab world were treated much worse. That is why do this day in Northern Africa and the Gulf that the "natives" are not white / black, the slaves were worked to death. In the Americas they were not worked to death as frequently. You seem to have some kind of racist agenda. Also, there were move slaves in the Arab world than in the Americas. #learnyourhistory.

All Lives matter.Plain and simple.Black, white, purple, Hispanic, muslim, female, bisexual.Everyone.

Historians don't deal in 'what ifs'. We can only make judgements based on the values that actually existed at the time, and if we do that we can see that slavery was considered immoral, but with the sole exception of black people. Or, to quote Vice President Alexander Stephens, that slavery "is the natural and moral condition" of the black race. So, if these values did not exist, would they still have enslaved black people? Well, like I said, we shouldn't deal in 'what ifs', but it's not much of a stretch to imagine that if blacks were seen as equal to whites then the answer would be no, because by this point enslaving whites was considered wrong.

None of this has any bearing on the actual point, which is that racism did exist, and that it was used to justify slavery, and that it continued to exist in a legal capacity long after abolition, and that the socioeconomic fallout is still felt today by the ancestors of slaves today - which is why it's still an issue close to peoples' hearts, and why it still gets brought up. "But what about the whites!" is just a gaping red-herring that distracts from the very really issues black Americans face today.

White lives matter because people say you can't even be racist against us despite being the most tolerant people in the world to other races except for maybe the Chinese and Thai people. So because we are so tolerant that excuses you to abuse us? I don't think so.

You've never been attacked by a black person.
You've never been evicted by a black person.
You've never had you're security deposit ripped off by a black landlord
You've never had a black landlord.
You've never had a black person deny you a job.
You've never had a black person deny you a home or a flat
You've never been pulled over by a black cop
And you've never heard a black person say, "We're going to eliminate 100 jobs here - have a nice day!"

I don't think that you are the only white person who can make these claims.

Every mean word, every cruel act, every bit of pain and suffering in your life has had a white face attached to it.

it was only a matter of time before this guy turned up

What I said is true and it's most likely true for you to.

I have been attacked by a black person.

Not that it matters in the slightest which race your attacker is. I beat them up just the same

OK. Well - Let's just say you're not lying and you're telling the truth. How severe was that attack ? When was that attack ? Why was that attack ?