Muslims - Will you fast during exam period? Exam clash with Ramadan
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Original post by Oilfreak1
Are you serious?
There is no direct quote that says it is halal to miss a fast during exams, there are several sources that cite missing a fast without a valid reason (Exams aren't one of them, i'm sure you think you're the centre of the earth and your exams are such a struggle but you're not and they're not), makes you worse than an adulterer. Missing a fast without a valid reason isn't just haram it's a Major sin, you're playing with religion looking for loopholes even if there were a grey area why would you take the risk and lean towards the major sin???
No doubt these sources have already been provided to you as well but being jahiliyya you will lie to yourself and (even worse) other muslims that sitting still for 1-3 hours is turmoil enough to break a fast. If you're going to sin, then sin don't tell us about it and pray for forgiveness/make up the fasts, don't propagate lies to make yourself feel better about your actions.
There is no direct quote that says it is halal to miss a fast during exams, there are several sources that cite missing a fast without a valid reason (Exams aren't one of them, i'm sure you think you're the centre of the earth and your exams are such a struggle but you're not and they're not), makes you worse than an adulterer. Missing a fast without a valid reason isn't just haram it's a Major sin, you're playing with religion looking for loopholes even if there were a grey area why would you take the risk and lean towards the major sin???
No doubt these sources have already been provided to you as well but being jahiliyya you will lie to yourself and (even worse) other muslims that sitting still for 1-3 hours is turmoil enough to break a fast. If you're going to sin, then sin don't tell us about it and pray for forgiveness/make up the fasts, don't propagate lies to make yourself feel better about your actions.
"Have you seen what Allah has sent down to you of provision of which you have made (some) lawful and (some) unlawful?" "Has Allah permitted you (to do so), or do you invent (something) about Allah?" Quran 10:59
'And do not say about what your tongues assert of untruth, 'This is lawful and this is unlawful," to invent falsehood about Allah. Indeed, those who invent falsehood about Allah will not succeed.' Quran 16:116
For something to be made haraam, there needs to be clear and an explicit command stating so. Anyone who states something as being haraam without such explicit evidence is committing Shirk as they are prohibiting people from doing things which Allah almighty is not. The Quran is for all time, and of course exams aren't explicitly mentioned, we need to adapt Islam to our daily lives and Islam states that if you are facing a physically demanding difficulty then you do not have to fast. Obviously it is subjective to every person what they find difficult, so it is permissible to miss a fast on a day of an exam. Allah does not want to burden us, he wants to make things easier for us, but people like you always choose the hard option and try to force it on others. If you wanna fast go ahead no one will stop you, but if people don't want to for exams then leave them be as it IS a valid reason! There is no EXPLICIT mention of this reason being invalid!
Original post by HAnwar
Exams are not going to be put in the Quran/hadith, you have been provided with enough evidence as it is by scholars.
I would appreciate it if you didn't quote me again on this matter.
I would appreciate it if you didn't quote me again on this matter.
You just proved my point
if it isn't explicitly mentioned as an invalid reason/haraam then its fine.Original post by safiyyah98
"Have you seen what Allah has sent down to you of provision of which you have made (some) lawful and (some) unlawful?" "Has Allah permitted you (to do so), or do you invent (something) about Allah?" Quran 10:59
'And do not say about what your tongues assert of untruth, 'This is lawful and this is unlawful," to invent falsehood about Allah. Indeed, those who invent falsehood about Allah will not succeed.' Quran 16:116
For something to be made haraam, there needs to be clear and an explicit command stating so. Anyone who states something as being haraam without such explicit evidence is committing Shirk as they are prohibiting people from doing things which Allah almighty is not. The Quran is for all time, and of course exams aren't explicitly mentioned, we need to adapt Islam to our daily lives and Islam states that if you are facing a physically demanding difficulty then you do not have to fast. Obviously it is subjective to every person what they find difficult, so it is permissible to miss a fast on a day of an exam. Allah does not want to burden us, he wants to make things easier for us, but people like you always choose the hard option and try to force it on others. If you wanna fast go ahead no one will stop you, but if people don't want to for exams then leave them be as it IS a valid reason! There is no EXPLICIT mention of this reason being invalid!
'And do not say about what your tongues assert of untruth, 'This is lawful and this is unlawful," to invent falsehood about Allah. Indeed, those who invent falsehood about Allah will not succeed.' Quran 16:116
For something to be made haraam, there needs to be clear and an explicit command stating so. Anyone who states something as being haraam without such explicit evidence is committing Shirk as they are prohibiting people from doing things which Allah almighty is not. The Quran is for all time, and of course exams aren't explicitly mentioned, we need to adapt Islam to our daily lives and Islam states that if you are facing a physically demanding difficulty then you do not have to fast. Obviously it is subjective to every person what they find difficult, so it is permissible to miss a fast on a day of an exam. Allah does not want to burden us, he wants to make things easier for us, but people like you always choose the hard option and try to force it on others. If you wanna fast go ahead no one will stop you, but if people don't want to for exams then leave them be as it IS a valid reason! There is no EXPLICIT mention of this reason being invalid!
There is no explicit mention of watching porn on a laptop or sexting being haram either are these also halal?
You reported my post citing sources and outing your real intentions, I wonder why. Sitting still for even 6 hours is not a valid excuse this is unanimously agreed by all credible scholars, if the sahaba/prophet heard you wanted to break fast because you have to sit an exam for a few hours they would be disgusted.
(edited 8 years ago)
Original post by bruce.wayne
I have the reason on my mind and i will Insha Allah fast and the good thing for me is that i only have 2 exams. Good Luck for your exams!
Good luck for your exams too! In sh Allah we will all do well and get the grades we want whilst fasting too - I hope Allah makes it easy for us all ^^
Original post by Oilfreak1
There is no explicit mention of watching porn on a laptop or sexting being haram either are these also halal?
You reported my post citing sources and outing your real intentions, I wonder why. Sitting still for even 6 hours is not a valid excuse this is unanimously agreed by all credible scholars, if the sahaba/prophet heard you wanted to break fast because you have to sit an exam for a few hours they would be disgusted.
You reported my post citing sources and outing your real intentions, I wonder why. Sitting still for even 6 hours is not a valid excuse this is unanimously agreed by all credible scholars, if the sahaba/prophet heard you wanted to break fast because you have to sit an exam for a few hours they would be disgusted.
Leave it bro. Even if Allah came down and told her it's not allowed, she would argue with Him (SWT). She reported my post because I proved her wrong and so that she would look like she's correct; how pathetic. @safiyyah98
Original post by Butternuts96
Leave it bro. Even if Allah came down and told her it's not allowed, she would argue with Him (SWT). She reported my post because I proved her wrong and so that she would look like she's correct; how pathetic. @safiyyah98
The purpose of educating individuals is not to 'prove them wrong' but to help them gain nearness to allah. You have said your bit if she wants to accept it or not it is her choice. In my opinion we must first look at the purpose of fasting, it is to gain self control and increase our worship even more and gain allahs love,
Allah's attributes are countless so is the extent of His reward, however, He has set some limitations for the attainment of His reward. For example during fasting one is not required to merely starve oneself, rather one has to make an endeavour to shun all sorts of worldly and carnal desires, only then it may be deemed that fasting is for Allah alone. Similarly the avoidance from the ills is not to be temporary and brief, rather it has to be a permanent effort.Indeed Allah knows what is in one's heart, is aware of the intention behind each deed, has knowledge of what is apparent and what is hidden, if a person fasts with Allah's attributes in mind, that fasting would be rewarded.Consisering this you do not need to fast if you find it not poosible to do so during exams and that it will hinder your perfomance but ensure you carry all the other good deeds that is required of the month of ramadhan and catch up the fasts later. Remember god is very merciful and like some have said dont fear that it will make you worse than an adulterer it wont for god is compassionate and understands us. But if you believe fasting will not affect you at all then you can fast. Simple.
Original post by Arafi
The purpose of educating individuals is not to 'prove them wrong' but to help them gain nearness to allah. You have said your bit if she wants to accept it or not it is her choice. In my opinion we must first look at the purpose of fasting, it is to gain self control and increase our worship even more and gain allahs love,
Allah's attributes are countless so is the extent of His reward, however, He has set some limitations for the attainment of His reward. For example during fasting one is not required to merely starve oneself, rather one has to make an endeavour to shun all sorts of worldly and carnal desires, only then it may be deemed that fasting is for Allah alone. Similarly the avoidance from the ills is not to be temporary and brief, rather it has to be a permanent effort.Indeed Allah knows what is in one's heart, is aware of the intention behind each deed, has knowledge of what is apparent and what is hidden, if a person fasts with Allah's attributes in mind, that fasting would be rewarded.Consisering this you do not need to fast if you find it not poosible to do so during exams and that it will hinder your perfomance but ensure you carry all the other good deeds that is required of the month of ramadhan and catch up the fasts later. Remember god is very merciful and like some have said dont fear that it will make you worse than an adulterer it wont for god is compassionate and understands us. But if you believe fasting will not affect you at all then you can fast. Simple.
Allah's attributes are countless so is the extent of His reward, however, He has set some limitations for the attainment of His reward. For example during fasting one is not required to merely starve oneself, rather one has to make an endeavour to shun all sorts of worldly and carnal desires, only then it may be deemed that fasting is for Allah alone. Similarly the avoidance from the ills is not to be temporary and brief, rather it has to be a permanent effort.Indeed Allah knows what is in one's heart, is aware of the intention behind each deed, has knowledge of what is apparent and what is hidden, if a person fasts with Allah's attributes in mind, that fasting would be rewarded.Consisering this you do not need to fast if you find it not poosible to do so during exams and that it will hinder your perfomance but ensure you carry all the other good deeds that is required of the month of ramadhan and catch up the fasts later. Remember god is very merciful and like some have said dont fear that it will make you worse than an adulterer it wont for god is compassionate and understands us. But if you believe fasting will not affect you at all then you can fast. Simple.
Adulterers can still go to heaven, so can murderers and prostitutes. No1 is saying missing a fast = hell. What we and the ulemah are saying is that it's not permissible (haram) to miss a fast for an exam.
Cmon bro you're dismissing one of the foundadtions of Islam, if waking up for fajr is too hard is it also halal to miss fajr prayer? Several sources have been provided on this thread detailing without a shadow of a doubt exams aren't a valid excuse.
If you want to miss a fast miss it, it's not the biggest sin in the world and you can repent, no one here is judging anyone for missing a fast. What you and other ill informed individuals are doing however is propagating misinformation that what is and always has been clearly haram is now halal to suit your worldly desires, this is a very dangerous path to go on.
Original post by Oilfreak1
Adulterers can still go to heaven, so can murderers and prostitutes. No1 is saying missing a fast = hell. What we and the ulemah are saying is that it's not permissible (haram) to miss a fast for an exam.
Cmon bro you're dismissing one of the foundadtions of Islam, if waking up for fajr is too hard is it also halal to miss fajr prayer? Several sources have been provided on this thread detailing without a shadow of a doubt exams aren't a valid excuse.
If you want to miss a fast miss it, it's not the biggest sin in the world and you can repent, no one here is judging anyone for missing a fast. What you and other ill informed individuals are doing however is propagating misinformation that what is and always has been clearly haram is now halal to suit your worldly desires, this is a very dangerous path to go on.
Cmon bro you're dismissing one of the foundadtions of Islam, if waking up for fajr is too hard is it also halal to miss fajr prayer? Several sources have been provided on this thread detailing without a shadow of a doubt exams aren't a valid excuse.
If you want to miss a fast miss it, it's not the biggest sin in the world and you can repent, no one here is judging anyone for missing a fast. What you and other ill informed individuals are doing however is propagating misinformation that what is and always has been clearly haram is now halal to suit your worldly desires, this is a very dangerous path to go on.
Summed it up so well mate ! Well done !
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Original post by Noara
Totally will! I'm actually kind of excited but also a tad bit nervous as I've never taken an exam while fasting.
Wait! Hold'up, are you even Muslim?
Original post by Powerpuff Girls
Wait! Hold'up, are you even Muslim?
Yup, gorgeous-eye-dp-person. Do I not look like one?
Original post by Noara
Yup, gorgeous-eye-dp-person. Do I not look like one?
Oh right!
You do look Muslim. And I am not trying to offend you, just a bit curious as to whether you are a Muslim or not.
And thanks for the compliment, you are rather "gorgeous" yourself.
Original post by Powerpuff Girls
Oh right!
You do look Muslim. And I am not trying to offend you, just a bit curious as to whether you are a Muslim or not.
And thanks for the compliment, you are rather "gorgeous" yourself.
You do look Muslim. And I am not trying to offend you, just a bit curious as to whether you are a Muslim or not.
And thanks for the compliment, you are rather "gorgeous" yourself.
How can you "look" like a Muslim?
Original post by Powerpuff Girls
Oh right!
You do look Muslim. And I am not trying to offend you, just a bit curious as to whether you are a Muslim or not.
And thanks for the compliment, you are rather "gorgeous" yourself.
You do look Muslim. And I am not trying to offend you, just a bit curious as to whether you are a Muslim or not.
And thanks for the compliment, you are rather "gorgeous" yourself.
Hahaha, it's totally cool! Quite a few people actually think that I'm a non-muslim, but its totally cool.
Wbu? You're not a muslim now, are you?
Hahah why thank you very much
Original post by ABeingOnEarth
How can you "look" like a Muslim?
I can just tell.
Original post by Powerpuff Girls
I can just tell.
k..
Original post by Noara
Hahaha, it's totally cool! Quite a few people actually think that I'm a non-muslim, but its totally cool.
Wbu? You're not a muslim now, are you?
Hahah why thank you very much
Wbu? You're not a muslim now, are you?
Hahah why thank you very much
Well to be honest my family are Muslim. I have been pious for the majority of my life. But of recent I no longer choose to believe in Islam any more.
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Original post by Powerpuff Girls
Well to be honest my family are Muslim. I have been pious for the majority of my life. But of recent I no longer choose to believe in Islam any more.
Ah, okay! That's interesting. So now you are an atheist?
Original post by Noara
Ah, okay! That's interesting. So now you are an atheist?
I do believe in a god, I am just in limbo right now. I just dislike when being threatened and put under pressure with the prospect of the hell fire for committing a sin or making a mistake. It just makes me hate my life. :/
Original post by Powerpuff Girls
I do believe in a god, I am just in limbo right now. I just dislike when being threatened and put under pressure with the prospect of the hell fire for committing a sin or making a mistake. It just makes me hate my life. :/
No one can say that because of one sin or mistake you are going to hell, god is the master of judgement and he will decide that and dont forget he is the most merciful.
Think of it this way there is a possibility that because of a mistake you make u can fail ur exams and have no uni prospects but you dont think about this and stop studying because this is a possibility no you work harder and try your best to get the best grades. The same applies to religion, make sure you strive to attain gods love and try refrain from doing any mistakes but if you do seek gods fogiveness.
Original post by Powerpuff Girls
I do believe in a god, I am just in limbo right now. I just dislike when being threatened and put under pressure with the prospect of the hell fire for committing a sin or making a mistake. It just makes me hate my life. :/
I get where you're coming from honestly. Nothing should be forced or pressurized upon someone when it comes to religion. It is just one of those fragile things that people should be allowed to deal with at whatever pace seems optimum to them.
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