STOP blaming immigrants for your failings

i live in south west london- sutton so i would have no idea what kind of people live in bradford- an immigration is not a bruden:
-Benefits are for those who cannot live like others easily due to medical or financial reasons and should not be bashed on or disliked on because of how they are, and i know they could go job centre, so they could consider that but they could be a career for a disabled person or themselves have a medical condition that means it is difficult for them to work, also there are many other factors that are the reason they could not get a job but you may or ma not know of them, i dont suppose you go around interviewing immigrants on benefits
-Immigrants also contribute to the economy because when immigrants come in, for those who take on work, usually they take on the lower jobs such as factory workers, farmers, cleaners etc so no matter what the contribute
-You could earn benefits as well as having a job
-Immigrants go on to having children who get an education which means they go on to working and helping the economy as well

immigrants deserve just as good of a life as us, the state of their country of origin could not be controlled by the mere hands of the emmigrants,

if the uk wants to stop immigration, then make them elect trump as PM and get over it

immigration is not a bruden:

You seem to have little knowledge of how the economy, taxation, or immigration work.


It is a burden:

The graph shows immigrants are doing better than natives.

Because you have far more immigrants who do not go to the UK for work. The positive contribution made by a immigrant doctor is nullified by a dozen of worthless immigrants that have entered the country at the same time.

If you had read properly what I wrote, you would have seen that I said "Only those who can make a positive contribution to the country should be accepted". Doctors and businessmen are welcome.

It has nothing to do with what the graph shows. Immigrants may be less likely to claim benefits, but it doesn't mean that they pay more taxes. Most of them just live there in council estates, they don't work, or on **** jobs, so they contribute very little to the economy. Hence why non-EU immigration is a burden overall.

...but are still a burden overall when they come from outside the EEA.

Are you reading the graph right, the non EEA line is above the native line showing the non EEA is doing better than the natives.

I read the graph right. The fact that non-EEA immigrants do better than natives overall doesn't negate the fact that they still cost more than what they contribute. They are below the grey "1.0" line.

I suggest you try taking a drive down the M4, or apply for social housing, or try getting your kids into local schools, or attend any number of A&E departments and try saying that with a straight face.

Immigration isnt just about jobs and benefits.

So are the natives, are you illiterate????

...but are still a burden overall when they come from outside the EEA.

I read the graph right. The fact that non-EEA immigrants do better than natives overall doesn't negate the fact that they still cost more than what they contribute. They are below the grey "1.0" line.

Yes, the natives cost a lot more than what they pay in taxes. I have never contested that fact.

But again, this is not a reason to admit migrants who will not make a positive contribution to the economy, and therefore aggravate the deficit.

Those that are of use too you, but not those who have fled war or come from countries where they are physically unable to live, okay lol.

I really wish EVERY single immigrant packed their bag and left, only then will this country realise what a mess it is without immigration.

Your last point just highlights your stupidity (infact i just went on your profile and if your age is correct it probably illustrates why you are so offended by immigration). However i will answer you last point; If immigrants are NOT claiming benefits then surely they must be working too keep themselves alive and thus contributing to the economy. Also you do realise the natives on benefits are far worse for the economy then a immigrant who does not claim but washes car for example for £5. Also stop degrading jobs and saying that they all live in council flats. The ones who do only came here a few years ago and work hard. What is the excuse for the natives who have been living in them for years since living in council flats is so bad????

You support someone like Donald Trump i could only pity your education and upbringing, your ignorance astounds me. In fact i would probably not be far off by assuming an immigrant has taken your job and this is why you are so defensive.

Your thread was about the positive contribution made by immigrants to the economy. Why are you switching the subject to war refugees?


Again, you are grossly distorting my point. I said that not all immigrants are worth the same. Some make a positive contribution, some don't.


Insults, I see.

You have substantial differences between migrants. Some do not want to claim benefits because they don't want to be a burden, others do not have such consideration. Overall, the former outnumber the latter.

I already said that native scroungers are terrible. We have to deal/cope with them. That's a fact. But it's not a reason to import more of similar people.



I have two master's degrees with distinction and I hold an offer for a PhD at Oxford. I don't need you to pity my education and upbringing.

I am also an immigrant on a high-paid job in the UK. I have paid about £500 of taxes and NI every month and never claimed a single penny of benefit.

This isn't necessarily true. For example, imagine a plumber from Romania. He would be happy to do the work for less than the going rate in the UK because it's still more than he would earn in his home country. He thereby undercuts British plumbers, who have to lower their prices.

Also, there are many instances of businesses hiring undocumented immigrants and therefore being able to pay them peanuts, rather than hiring legitimate workers who would have to be paid th minimum wage and be granted worker rights.

Shouting down those who complain about these things as failures is far too simplistic.