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Original post by VannR
I'm studying Computer Science (I almost did Maths as a joint honours, but would have missed too much comp sci), and my field of interest is also Data Science. I've been looking at possible social media applications, with the intention to build my own tech start-up after my Master's degree.

It would be interesting to here what you think about the industry and where you think a good field of employment is for people with our skill set.


There are tonnes of avenues to take in a data science/analytics role..

The main ones are: technology and quant finance.

Tech companies (Google, FB, Microsoft, etc) regularly hire: data scientists, data analysts and business analysts. FB actually has this cool role which combines data science with software engineering (data engineering).

Finance companies, especially investment managers (i.e. BlackRock), quant hedge funds (DE Shaw, Citadel, Two Sigma etc) and proprietary trading firms (Jane Street, SIG, DRW etc) all have roles within their quant research groups primarily focused on utilising data to come up with new strategies to implement on the markets. I believe Goldman actually has this nifty data analytics group in their operations department, not sure about other i-banks.

Others include:
Credit card companies (AmEx, Capital One, Visa etc), fintech (Bloomberg etc), all take on data analysts/business analysts to utilise consumer data, and general market data for insight creation.

Hell even sports teams, the NHS, pharmaceutical companies etc. The scope is huge for where data scientists/analytics professionals can work. Wherever there is big data, there will be data scientists.

Outside of quant analysis/data analytics, you might find things like market intelligence/business intelligence to be of interest.

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Degree: Electrical and Electronic Engineering
Jobs/Careers of Interest: Software Engineering (May do an Msc in Artificial Intelligence or just specialise as part of my Masters) / Finance (Investment Banking if I decide to sell out lol)
Graduate Salary Expected: 35-40k for both I think? With added bonuses for IB
Original post by chrisidialu
Degree: Electrical and Electronic Engineering
Jobs/Careers of Interest: Software Engineering (May do an Msc in Artificial Intelligence or just specialise as part of my Masters) / Finance (Investment Banking if I decide to sell out lol)
Graduate Salary Expected: 35-40k for both I think? With added bonuses for IB


You'd be on the money for software engineering within an IB. But actual front office IB is £50k + bonus.

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Degree: BSc Computer Science
Jobs/Careers of Interest: Software Engineer, IT Consultant, Tech Startup. moving up to management after a few years.
Graduate Salary Expected: £28k - £30k
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Original post by Princepieman
You'd be on the money for software engineering within an IB. But actual front office IB is £50k + bonus.

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I assume the engineering roles in the proper tech companies (Google, Apple, Microsoft, Facebook etc) are more then?
Original post by chrisidialu
I assume the engineering roles in the proper tech companies (Google, Apple, Microsoft, Facebook etc) are more then?


Yeah, significantly more. I've seen some of the offers first hand from friends.

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Original post by MevMev
Wouldn't u consider a villain role? :P


Maybe, I see myself more of an Iron Man than a Loki
But im not fussy, if marvel wants me as a villain, I would happily accept it
Original post by hellodave5
The UK job market is going to nail some people quite hard...
what do you mean?
Degree: BSc Accounting and Finance (S/O Warwick)
Jobs/Careers of Interest: Asset Management / Equity Research
Graduate Salary Expected: £30 - £35 k (not sure on bonuses)
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Degree: Biomed/Microbiology
Jobs/Careers of Interest: Assuming I can get one, which is unlikely enough, medical or research scientist? Or just wherever the hell will employ me
Graduate Salary Expected: £21-26k or whatever the job seekers allowance is
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Original post by J-SP
The issue is that you are competing against the best part of 100,000 applicants though (if not more), from the UK and abroad. Yes, if you are in the top 2% of those applicants you are going to get the job, but the overwhelming majority of people applying are going to be thoroughly disappointed.

It's great that you and others are gunning for it and are determined to get there, but it is still a pretty narrow field to get into no matter how determined you are.




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Definitely, well aware of the competition! It's interesting, I'm in quite a tight group of friends all aiming for high finance roles, etc. With my help and the help between themselves, they all managed to gain internship and full time positions at each respective firm. Even people on TSR that have messaged me for CV help etc, have messaged me months later to say they've landed a job :smile:

The trouble with using 'top 2%' as a qualifier is that 90% of those applicants won't have optimisied their CVs nor would they have taken the care to iron out any obvious blunders. I've seen this first hand when I helped my mother (she was in HR at a decent firm) sift through a couple bunches of grad CVs; the ones which didn't fit the criteria were very easy to spot.

Thanks for the dose of (non-sarcastic/patronising) realism to the thread though, it's always welcome.
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Original post by scrawlx101
what do you mean?


People have high expectations of employment straight away post-degree, when the reality is that there are very few graduate jobs. :frown:
degree: mechanical engineering
career of interest: engineering, then management/consulting/business
graduate salary expected: idk?
Original post by hellodave5
People have high expectations of employment straight away post-degree, when the reality is that there are very few graduate jobs. :frown:


You sure? 200k grads in grad jobs sounds like a fair amount to me: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/universityeducation/11943223/Record-number-of-graduates-in-work-report-reveals.html

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I don't have much time for stats as ive an essay due, but doesn't that say jobs generally independent of pay scale - i.e. those grads could be working minimum wage?
Whats the relative % of people that get high paying jobs within the first year of graduation? I would assume incredibly small. I think this is what people are meaning when they state an amount that they wish to earn post-graduation.
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Original post by J-SP
Not all 200k are in graduate jobs - 68.2% of that number are in jobs that require a degree.


Knew you'd catch me out :tongue:

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Original post by J-SP
Your connections/knowledge via your mother's experience will undoubtedly help. Not everyone has that knowledge or connections though - you sounds quite the exception.


Oh, she didn't work in finance. It was another big (O&G) company which regularly hires graduates. My knowledge is an amalgam of me networking since I was 15, (highly driven) friendship circles and the internet.

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Original post by Princepieman
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Definitely, well aware of the competition! It's interesting, I'm in quite a tight group of friends all aiming for high finance roles, etc. With my help and the help between themselves, they all managed to gain internship and full time positions at each respective firm. Even people on TSR that have messaged me for CV help etc, have messaged me months later to say they've landed a job :smile:

The trouble with using 'top 2%' as a qualifier is that 90% of those applicants won't have optimisied their CVs nor would they have taken the care to iron out any obvious blunders. I've seen this first hand when I helped my mother (she was in HR at a decent firm) sift through a couple bunches of grad CVs; the ones which didn't fit the criteria were very easy to spot.

Thanks for the dose of (non-sarcastic/patronising) realism to the thread though, it's always welcome.


That's very kind and selfless of you to help people out like that :h:
Original post by Youngmetro
That's very kind and selfless of you to help people out like that :h:


Thanks :') I do try my best to help but sometimes my inbox is bombarded and I just can't respond to everything aha.

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Degree: Finance
Jobs/Careers of Interest: Banking
Graduate Salary Expected: ~50k - 60k

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