Honest Opinions: What do you think about homosexuality?

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But we could still have free will without sin. If God was omnipotent, surely it would be possible for him to create a world in which there was no sin at all and everything we did would be good. Is this not what God wants? Why give us the option to choose evil if he wants us to be perfect?

Reply 81

Anonymous #5

i don't support homosexuality, but i have friends who are homosexual and they respect why i'm against it. and i respect who they are, even though i do not agree with it...we even have some good debates on it

Reply 82

username1539513

Original post by Anonymous

God is perfectly Good and Just simultaneously, He cannot change what Sin is because Sin by it's definition is defined as something which goes against the nature of God as an omnipotent and omniscient divine being. Because God is all of these things and immutable (unchanging) it would not be possible for Him to change the definition of Sin because to do that He would have to change His nature and if He could do that He wouldn't be perfectly loving, good, just or even God at all.

Reply 83

username1884577

I'd think "aww, how sweet"

Yes I'm Christian

No I don't give a damn, live life how you want to live it :h:

Reply 84

Proxenus

I would probably take a little longer than a glance only because I don't encounter gay couples on the street very often so i'm somewhat curious.

No views.

Reply 85

Anonymous #1

Original post by Proxenus

I would probably take a little longer than a glance only because I don't encounter gay couples on the street very often so i'm somewhat curious.

No views.

Would you not have a view on whether it is immoral or not? Would you feel uncomfortable?

Reply 86

The Epicurean

They never claimed to be a Biblical scholar. Someone could easily make the same comment back towards you. As Jesus say:

Matthew 7:3 - "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?"

I am protestant Christian, more specifically Baptist. I am not against homosexuality per say, just homosexual acts which are specifically outlined in the Bible as being sinful along with fornication, adultery, bestiality and incest. This is not what I say, it is what my faith says.

I guess you also checked to see if anonymous here was a boy before lecturing him, as the Bible quite clearly prohibits women from lecturing men

1 Timothy 2:12 - I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet.

But let us be honest. People often pick and choose from the Bible to suit their own agenda, and the verse on homosexuality are just one of a number of handpicked verses. The people who argued abolition of slavery turned to the Bible to support their position. Likewise, those who wished to preserve the practice of slavery also turned to the Bible defend their position.

Jesus taught more about Hell than Heaven, he describes it as a real place where sinners go after their death. Since all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God, God must punish Sin due to his nature of being perfectly good and just. So when Adam and Eve sinned they brought Sin into the world which affected biological processes, thus producing death, disease and illness and other biological quirks, one of which is homosexuality.

The Augustinian theodicy is flawed at best. Unless one is a creationist who denies evolution and take a literal interpretation of the Genesis creation account, such a position is impossible to defend. The Augustinian Theodicy fails to account for natural evil in a world where it is clear that natural evil pre-dates human existence.

I personally prefer the Irenaean Theodicy over that of the Augustine Theodicy although it does somewhat contradict the Genesis account and the whole belief of original sin. From what I understand, it does still have its basis in Genesis.

Genesis 1:26 - ‘Let us make man in Our image, in Our likeness.’

Irenaeus saw the world as a path towards achieving Gods image and likeness. Essentially we need to be free beings who grapple with the challenges in order to perfect ourselves. Courage would have no point in a world without danger or difficulty. If we lived in a world without harm or evil, there would be no possibility for humans to exercise heroism or charity. The environment we live in, with all its problems, it intended to assist in the growth of us as free beings. Though the 2004 Tsunami was awful, people from all over the world were united in the desire to help and aid those affected. As Seneca famously said, "A gem cannot be polished without friction, nor a man perfected without trials"

Homosexuality was never in God's original plan.

Except homosexuality has been observed in hundreds of species. God has created animals like the bonobo who often engage in homosexual acts. It was obviously part of God's intended purpose if he created many creatures which practice homosexuality.

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Reply 87

AperfectBalance

I don't really care as long as you are not being annoying or camp

Reply 88

The Epicurean

Original post by Anonymous

Indeed. One of the common argument used by theists in regards to why evil exists despite God being both omnipotent and omnibenevolent is that it is necessary for creating beings with freewill. However J L Mackie argues that this is not true. He argues that if man was created wholly good, he could still essentially possess the free will to choose between several different good actions. God did not have to make man susceptible to evil in order to give them freewill.

To better elaborate this point, I shall take the example of God. Does God have freewill? I assume most religious people believe he does have freewill and that he isn't in some way limited, as any limit upon his freewill would contradict his omnipotence. I assume they also believe that God is omnibenevolent or any similar term they might use? This means that they believe that despite God having freewill, God always does what is good. So, if God has freewill and always freely chooses the good act, and that always choosing the good does not in any way contradict his freewill, then why could God not have created humans beings the same?

Reply 89

Proxenus

Original post by Anonymous

Would you not have a view on whether it is immoral or not? Would you feel uncomfortable?

Nope, we're all human.

Reply 90

KristinaMaria

I wouldn't even notice if I'm honest regardless of the gender of the couples. Me and my ex girlfriend used to hold hands and never really had any issues, one drunk guy once yelled at us but he was like 'you go girls, if you're happy then go for it'. I think it does depend on where you live as well, I am far more concious of people when I'm in Northampton, whereas when I was in Brighton, anything went and it felt like a far more accepting environment!

Reply 91

thehistorybore

Original post by Anonymous

I'm 17 and openly homosexual. A boy I'm speaking to and me have discussed holding hands in public but I'm personally scared of doing that in fear of being tormented or even being the victim of hate crime.

What are your honest opinions on homosexuality? How would you react if you saw a gay couple in the street? What's it like around your area where you live in terms of hate crime and gay people?

I don't think anything of them. It's like asking me the question 'what do you think about people?' They're no different to anyone else.

Reply 92

Popsiclez

I find Homosexual Coupless much more cuter than Hetero probably because they've been through much more to get where they are like when I see Niel Patrick Harris and His husband I'm just like aww. But I don't like Homosexuals that act full on Gay like doing them hand gestures and "Hayyy Gurl" Thats just too Over the top for me.

Reply 93

HFBS

First thought about 'what do I think about homosexuality?' is that I think gay porn is hot, but I don't think that's the question you want answered. What do I think about gay couples on the street. Not a lot. I love seeing my homosexual friends in couples, because I am super freaking happy for them, same as my heterosexual friends when they find someone who makes them happy.

Reply 94

loveleest

Original post by hezzlington

Angry has some very extreme views. I'm going to burn in hell apparently. But she (or he) is always respectful and rather pleasant :smile:

Hell doesn't exist lol, you'll be fine :smile:

Reply 95

Alexion

I don't see couples differently whether they're straight or gay.

I just love to see love :woo:

Reply 96

Anonymous #3

Original post by Alexion

I don't see couples differently whether they're straight or gay.

I just love to see love :woo:

Well said Alexion :hugs:

Reply 97

Rorschach II

On the same stand as heterosexuality.

I'd think it'd be something nice to see, considering I am mostly attracted to men, the same sex, and it'd be refreshing and cute.

Reply 98

kirigiri

Original post by ZiggyStarDust_

do you live in Manchester by any chance

fair guess! i live in brighton.

Reply 99

xxx-ooo-xxx

I think it's absolutely shocking that this is still an issue and utterly disgusting that people still find it wrong; for people to simply recite quotes from the Bible and live their life by them without considering that these are in actual fact supposed to be interpreted poetically is just wrong.

The disrespect for other human beings is one thing, the inconsistency in their belief is another thing. For the sake of the argument, I'm going to stereotype the Christians against homosexuality and say they're incredibly fundamentalist and claim to live their life by the 'inerrant' word of the Bible. A commonly introduced argument is the one surrounding "Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material". Now, I'm sure as hell certain that the cotton/polyester mix t-shirt you're wearing is enough to show you that your belief system is based on a 'pick and choose' kind of morality much more so than an 'everything my religion teaches is absolutely true and I shall live my life by it strictly to the word' sort.

And OP, I completely understand why hate crime would be a fear of yours and I can't speak from experience but I'm sure it would be a fear of mine too but I believe someone has previously mentioned something along the lines of life is too short to hold yourself back because of fear. If nobody had ever acted on their fears we would be living in complete and utter hell without supposed equal rights etc, one of the only ways to achieve further acceptance is to normalise is it and be as open as you deem possible about it. I understand it's much easier said than done but I wish you all the luck with this, it should not be a hinderance and I really hope you come to be able to be open about it. X