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amazingtrade
I did say not all of them are like that. Its just when you come from a background like mine you can't study fancy things like economics, you are forced to stuff like business studies instead.

I just don't agree with elitism thats all but this may be argued on a thread I will make tomorrow if I can be bothered.
Yeah, and that why they say that aslong as you have two traditional subject they would accept Business Studies. But they don't consider it useful, and instead of having to reject hundreds more students every year, they put it in their prospetus. They've got to protect the the image and standards of the university as well as the students; in the end it's their university, so their rules.
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amazingtrade
I did say not all of them are like that. Its just when you come from a background like mine you can't study fancy things like economics, you are forced to stuff like business studies instead.

I just don't agree with elitism thats all but this may be argued on a thread I will make tomorrow if I can be bothered.


What background is that AT? you seem to twist your background to suit your "arguments"....a few weeks ago you ticked the posh option in a poll.

And by the way, they're not being elite you silly person. They've clearly compared the calibre of student and the type of A-levels they've taken and they must feel that BS a level corresponds to a generally lower calibre of student than say a student who takes physics or english etc. Whether this is right or wrong, it's their perogative, and Baz is right...looking at their league tables is sure is hard to argue with 'em!
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WOW I sure do love these threads. I look at them and instantly feel as stupid as sin. I take both Business Studies and Media Studies (along with Maths). I took Business Studies as I had no previous experience of that subject, wasn't quite sure which aspect to specialise in (Accounting or Economics) and so decided that Business Studies would provide me with a useful subject, applicable to pretty much every career. I can't stick the subject myself, I think its jsut because it can be very boring. However some of it, like the employment laws I actually found interesting. Its damned hard though. very hard. I don't get every year around about results time why there are always people saying oh this subject is easy and this other one is easier. It annoys me enough when randomers do that, but fellow students...now thats just annoying. Surely everyone knows that each and every subject is hard in its own right!

Anywho media now, i know its not the media thread but i don't care. I chose to do media as it looked interesting. I hadn't heard much of the mickey-mouse subject talk so I had no idea of how unrespected it is. Anyway yes, I chose to do this as an essay writing subject. Along with the Business Studies and the Maths I also chose German at AS, so MEdia became the biggest essay writing subject. It has provided me with valuable experience in esays, that I would never have gained had I taken say, physics or chemistry. Yes I completely understand that Physics and Chemistry have their opwn personal merits, and I look upon those subjects with awe, as I would never be able to do them myself. Anyway my main point is that each subject has its own merits. Perhaps the subject content isn't a useful in the MEdia Studies course, but I have learnt invaluable skills from it, and so if given the choice again...I would still choose it as a subject. SAme for Business Studies
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hey i did business studies at AS level and i can truly say that it IS a mickey mouse subject. There is no point in doing it
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So I am totally confused as to whether to do Business Studies or not! Are either History or Law regarded as a 'Mickey Mouse' subjects? :smile:
Reply 25
sparkysdream
So I am totally confused as to whether to do Business Studies or not! Are either History or Law regarded as a 'Mickey Mouse' subjects? :smile:


stop thinking about it as a micky mouse subject. maybe it is regarded as such for some people but if YOU are interested in it you should take it. it is better that you take a subject that you are interested in and get good grades at that instead of a subject that is regarded as the best one and don't get good grades.
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Business Studies is generally regarded by teachers as an "easier subject" to study than economics, but a harder subject to get a good grade (i.e. grade A or B). Partly this is due to the very ambiguous way in which Bus Studies exams are marked. As a rule of thumb, it is generally not advisable to take both Bus Studies AND economics. Other than that, if the subject interests you and suits your study style, then take it!

Jim
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stop thinking about it as a micky mouse subject. maybe it is regarded as such for some people but if YOU are interested in it you should take it. it is better that you take a subject that you are interested in and get good grades at that instead of a subject that is regarded as the best one and don't get good grades.

Does the 'enjoyment'/'interest' of a subject rank above future ambitions? I don't think so.

The hard and fast issue is that Business Studies and Media Studies (especially to A2) are not highly regarded by the elite academic institutions.

People have the right to be aware of this before they sign on the dotted line.

I'm thankful that somebody in the year above told me (prior to selecting my A-level choices) that Business Studies is a joke. I didn't have much idea at the time of university choices, but had I have opted for BS instead of Economics - I would be at a disadvantage now, for sure.

People should be given all the facts before they make a decision, it's only fair.
I would be seething if I came to apply to the LSE (et al) in 2005 (which I will) - and I found out that one of my A-level subjects would effectively be disregarded.

For me, A-levels aren't really about enjoyment - they are my ticket to HE. Interest/enjoyment may be a byproduct of my studies, but it is not the chief end. Otherwise I wouldn't be doing Geography. :biggrin:
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mobbdeeprob
Does the 'enjoyment'/'interest' of a subject rank above future ambitions? I don't think so.

The hard and fast issue is that Business Studies and Media Studies (especially to A2) are not highly regarded by the elite academic institutions.

People have the right to be aware of this before they sign on the dotted line.

I'm thankful that somebody in the year above told me (prior to selecting my A-level choices) that Business Studies is a joke. I didn't have much idea at the time of university choices, but had I have opted for BS instead of Economics - I would be at a disadvantage now, for sure.

People should be given all the facts before they make a decision, it's only fair.
I would be seething if I came to apply to the LSE (et al) in 2005 (which I will) - and I found out that one of my A-level subjects would effectively be disregarded.

For me, A-levels aren't really about enjoyment - they are my ticket to HE. Interest/enjoyment may be a byproduct of my studies, but it is not the chief end. Otherwise I wouldn't be doing Geography. :biggrin:


i know that business studies is not higly regarded. i have been thinking about taking that myself but has been advised to studdy economics instead. but my point was that if you read something you are interested in it might go better. to do something that you don't want to only because it will benefit your future can be good but if you want to work with that. but if you want to work with business and not economics you shouldn't take economics.
1 in 4 of your A-Levels can be something you like, the rest can be working towards a goal. Unis don't usually want 4 specific subjects, so someone could do business and others. Business is interesting and if the person gets a good grade, it looks good.
Just do whatever you want. Oxbridge, Bristol, Warwick, UCL et al don't seem to be bothered by what A Levels you've done as, frankly, most of them realise that they all take a vast amount to do well in.
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mobbdeeprob
Does the 'enjoyment'/'interest' of a subject rank above future ambitions? I don't think so.

The hard and fast issue is that Business Studies and Media Studies (especially to A2) are not highly regarded by the elite academic institutions.

People have the right to be aware of this before they sign on the dotted line.

I'm thankful that somebody in the year above told me (prior to selecting my A-level choices) that Business Studies is a joke. I didn't have much idea at the time of university choices, but had I have opted for BS instead of Economics - I would be at a disadvantage now, for sure.

People should be given all the facts before they make a decision, it's only fair.
I would be seething if I came to apply to the LSE (et al) in 2005 (which I will) - and I found out that one of my A-level subjects would effectively be disregarded.

For me, A-levels aren't really about enjoyment - they are my ticket to HE. Interest/enjoyment may be a byproduct of my studies, but it is not the chief end. Otherwise I wouldn't be doing Geography. :biggrin:
I agree with some of that actually. I was actually told, by a careers advisor, that the subjects that you did at A Level wouldn't matter- due to a combination of that and bad choices in my other AS Levels, I ended up with media AND film. I didn't realise what a lie this was until I came to apply to University. I got into a good university, but I'm worried now that it could affect my job prospects in the future. A shame really, because I've quite enjoyed the courses. :frown:
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Frances
I agree with some of that actually. I was actually told, by a careers advisor, that the subjects that you did at A Level wouldn't matter- due to a combination of that and bad choices in my other AS Levels, I ended up with media AND film. I didn't realise what a lie this was until I came to apply to University. I got into a good university, but I'm worried now that it could affect my job prospects in the future. A shame really, because I've quite enjoyed the courses. :frown:

What job do you want to do? I am sure for most jobs it won't matter to much, they just want a few good grades at A level, its the degree and your personality they will probably care most about.
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amazingtrade
What job do you want to do? I am sure for most jobs it won't matter to much, they just want a few good grades at A level, its the degree and your personality they will probably care most about.

It would help if I knew I guess. I've though about the civil service (somebody told me that they don't actually care about your a levels :biggrin: ), maybe journalism (which contributed to the bad subject choices- I took english language because I was told I'd have to, and found myself spending lessons wondering how to kill myself), and if all else fails, teaching. :biggrin:

But I'm open to suggestions. I guess really I just want to do something interesting.
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Frances
It would help if I knew I guess. I've though about the civil service (somebody told me that they don't actually care about your a levels :biggrin: ), maybe journalism (which contributed to the bad subject choices- I took english language because I was told I'd have to, and found myself spending lessons wondering how to kill myself), and if all else fails, teaching. :biggrin:

But I'm open to suggestions. I guess really I just want to do something interesting.

I have only really seen graduate jobs in the I.T market, for the graduate trainee programs they seem to just state somthing like 240 UCAS points and a 2:1 or above. The rest of the selection seems to be done by their own tests and a series of interviews.

My mum always thinks my sister did bad A levels, (Maths, Sociology, Computing and General Studies and AS Business) but she still got a place at Manchester, York, Warwick, Lancaster, Keele and Shefield.
amazingtrade
What job do you want to do? I am sure for most jobs it won't matter to much, they just want a few good grades at A level, its the degree and your personality they will probably care most about.

I would perhaps echo these comments, but add to this that the main purpose of A-levels is to get you into uni. {To Frances} To a large extent, employers will mainly be looking at your immediate CV - i.e. your current university course and wider experience (including personality and work experience). Having gained entry to a competitive course, you could effectively draw a line under your A-levels, they won't count for all that much in future - their purpose was largely to gain you access to a good course. You have achieved that! From hereonin, your main concern is to get the best class of degree possible and to combine that with wider experience - decent work experience and additional activities.

I would go on record as saying that your 'social capital' (conversational skills, personality, charisma) will count for a lot more than which A-levels you selected back in 2001 (or whenever it was).
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amazingtrade
I have only really seen graduate jobs in the I.T market, for the graduate trainee programs they seem to just state somthing like 240 UCAS points and a 2:1 or above. The rest of the selection seems to be done by their own tests and a series of interviews.

My mum always thinks my sister did bad A levels, (Maths, Sociology, Computing and General Studies and AS Business) but she still got a place at Manchester, York, Warwick, Lancaster, Keele and Shefield.

I wish I'd done computing and sociology. I also kind of wish I'd done chemistry, but people always give me funny looks when I say that. I'm not sure whether it's because they all hate chemistry, or because they assume that somebody who does media wouldn't be able to handle chemistry. :rolleyes:
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mobbdeeprob
I would perhaps echo these comments, but add to this that the main purpose of A-levels is to get you into uni. {To Frances} To a large extent, employers will mainly be looking at your immediate CV - i.e. your current university course and wider experience (including personality and work experience). Having gained entry to a competitive course, you could effectively draw a line under your A-levels, they won't count for all that much in future - their purpose was largely to gain you access to a good course. You have achieved that! From hereonin, your main concern is to get the best class of degree possible and to combine that with wider experience - decent work experience and additional activities.

I would go on record as saying that your 'social capital' (conversational skills, personality, charisma) will count for a lot more than which A-levels you selected back in 2001 (or whenever it was).

Well I certainly hope you're right!

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