"Feminism is useless in the first world"

How can a group who's sole focus is furthering women's rights be for equality?


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Does that turn you on when more laws are being pushed? You obviously don't like freedom much and you clearly don't want people to have freedoms at all

Given the fact that in my first month of living in Cologne I had 6 derogotary comments (at least) made towards me and was even grabbed, and invited back to a random mans house whilst sat on the tube minding my own business, I do not think its pointless. At all. We live in such a backwards society.

there is a difference between equality of opportunity and equality of outcome.

Ideally a large percentage of women might like to be "stay at home mums" to create neighbourhoods and culture (as it was in the olden days). Now no one hardly knows their neighbours at all. This opportunity of being a "stay at home mum" has been removed by all political thinking

How many liberal feminists (or even conservatives or anyone) are pushing for the rights to be "stay at home mums"? In our current system its almost considered a sin against humanity to want to be a "stay at home mum"

But why should it be? Surely people should be free to follow their dreams and if their dream is to be at home building "localism" and "society" and "culture" why should we force them into the work place?

Where is the correlation between what I said and what you just claimed. I have no idea. How does wanting equal rights equate with not wanting freedom. I am quite baffled.

Yes, furthering the rights of women so they are the same as men. How is that not pushing for equality? I just don't understand.

You are advocating the use of force . You want the state to make decisions for you and I

What right do men have and women do not?

The right of society not seeing them as inferior due to their gender. For example, there may be laws saying employers should not discriminate based on gender but in actuality employers still do and men get top CEO positions even when more women are going to university and getting first-class degrees. There is deep-rooted gender inequality within our society. Just because we have become more equal doesn't mean there's equality.

Have you ever considered the fact that is because in general men put in more hours and are prepared to work rediculous hours.

You don't have the right to force someone to see you a certain way a man doesn't have this right either, it's good to see you are making up rights now.

Where did you get that from?

Yes, furthering the rights of women so they are the same as men. How is that not pushing for equality? I just don't understand.

The right of society not seeing them as inferior due to their gender. For example, there may be laws saying employers should not discriminate based on gender but in actuality employers still do and men get top CEO positions even when more women are going to university and getting first-class degrees. There is deep-rooted gender inequality within our society. Just because we have become more equal doesn't mean there's equality.

I was waiting for you to bring that up. Men putting in more hours and prepared to work ridiculous* hours is not the sole reason though. The reality is that men are seen as more superior than women in society and THERE IS inequality whether it be consciously or subconsciously, within there law or within society. I advise you not to take everything you see at face value; that just because there are laws in place, women are now equal to men. I believe that equal rights for women will also benefit men. Men all be able to take the role of the homemaker without feeling that there is a stigma attached. Also, male victims of domestic violence will be treated the same as female victims of domestic violence. It's a win win situation and by saying you don't believe there is any need for feminism, you're also oppressing men.

I was waiting for you to bring that up. Men putting in more hours and prepared to work ridiculous* hours is not the sole reason though. The reality is that men are seen as more superior than women in society and THERE IS inequality whether it be consciously or subconsciously, within there law or within society. I advise you not to take everything you see at face value; that just because there are laws in place, women are now equal to men. I believe that equal rights for women will also benefit men. Men all be able to take the role of the homemaker without feeling that there is a stigma attached. Also, male victims of domestic violence will be treated the same as female victims of domestic violence. It's a win win situation and by saying you don't believe there is any need for feminism, you're also oppressing men.

It's called nature. Men are built for stress, stamina and leadership. Women are built for emotion, delicacy and support. This is the way the world works.

Sure, we're not animals, and those traits arent as relevant in modern workplaces, and its good that more women are going into work than in times past. But to say there aren't enough female CEOs? How is that a measure of inequality? You could compare something like there aren't enough female teachers, as that is a profession that had demographics worth measuring. CEOs are few and far between, and the fact of the matter is that ON AVERAGE , women don't have what it takes. Do not think that this means I'm looking down on women or seeing them as inferior. They are not. But humans are suited for different roles, just as a carpenter cannot be CEO material either.

And you are naive to think laws will truly make us equal in the way you think. Do you think this will mean that women will no longer consider height in men as attractive? Or men will consider overweight women attractive? The latter is already being pushed down everyone's throat, yet short men accept their fate. Where is the equality in that?

I was waiting for you to bring that up. Men putting in more hours and prepared to work ridiculous* hours is not the sole reason though. The reality is that men are seen as more superior than women in society and THERE IS inequality whether it be consciously or subconsciously, within there law or within society. I advise you not to take everything you see at face value; that just because there are laws in place, women are now equal to men. I believe that equal rights for women will also benefit men. Men all be able to take the role of the homemaker without feeling that there is a stigma attached. Also, male victims of domestic violence will be treated the same as female victims of domestic violence. It's a win win situation and by saying you don't believe there is any need for feminism, you're also oppressing men.