"Feminism is useless in the first world"

Literally my response summed up. Thank you. You said that perfectly.

-Only 77% of young men agree that having sex with someone who has said no is rape.

Your assumption that all women feel that way is simply wrong. In fact, I've never actually met a woman who has laughed at a man's misfortune in terms of sexism (I know it does happen, but your perception is skewed).

And what advantages do you think women have over men? I don't have time to read the whole thread and I want to know what you think.

And you are suggesting that women are no longer oppressed, when you agreed with some of another post's statistics, and you need to consider developing countries,

as well as sexual harassment and rape, as well as inequality in the workplace, in the UK. They are factually unequal. Also, modern feminism does have a bad name. Otherwise I would see no point in defending it. In fact, its bad name is so obvious when people like you genuinely think women use it as a way to laugh at men!

I do think you raise some important points, as a lot of self-proclaimed feminists don't consider the issues of men, and they are definitely not talked about as much as they should. However, this makes them misandrists and not feminists - actual feminists are doing some important things for men, such as fighting for equality in the legal system for custody of children.

I find it sad that your views on feminism are so negative. You have made generalisations about women's opinions on men's oppression, but I'd like to repeat that these are NOT feminists, these women are sexist and need to be educated, and they give feminism a bad name.

However, I need to disagree with you on a few points. Although true that many of men's struggles are hidden, they do not suffer more than women in most aspects. And of course there are issues regarding women that are now being discussed, because women have never felt like they could speak out until the feminist movement spread - but this doesn't mean they don't also have hidden issues, which, as a man, you know little about. Personally, as a white middle class straight binary woman, I don't think I experience many of these, but I would definitely consider myself oppressed in comparison to a white middle class straight binary man.

However, I think you need to look at feminism in the bigger picture, and how it helps people of colour, lower classes, and different sexualities and non-binary genders, and look into child marriage and acid attacks on poor women of colour in less developed countries.

In reply to your comment about the media's perception of men - over 85% of newspaper editors are men. So you cannot blame women for that one. Also, many media outlets are oppressive to masses of groups of people, it is not purely men

I'd also like to throw in a fact - black girls perform the best educationally in the UK, but are the most likely to be fired from a job within the first year. Just a reminder of how a lot of sexism is institutional and so harder to detect, amongst all genders

You are absolutely right that men's issues aren't addressed enough, but I hope I helped you to learn something new

Ok but you mentioned things which men can do which women can't get away with. The day to day sort of issues. Like one example I'll just throw out there is that there wouldn't be a version of the TV show 'Take me out' where 30 men all judge one woman on her looks. It would be 'sexist'. Ok, I'll give you another, men believe it or not these days can feel quite uncomfortable around other peoples children because society automatically deems that women are more 'trustworthy, caring etc etc' All complete nonsense of course but people never think of females being pedophiles or violent or anything like that. There was an article in the BBC last week which showed a naked man holding his naked son in the shower and it was widely labelled 'wrong' and 'creepy'. Suggestions of pedophilia they said. The same image of a naked mother and her naked daughter was considered 'beautiful' and 'loving'. Ok, one more, it is 'ok' to have all female gyms or indeed any kind of all female club. But have an all male golf club or an all male gym - sexism - all over the news. Ok, one more, last one I promise. Have you even seen the recent social experiments showing how FUNNY the general public (and especially women) find it to see a man suffer at the hands of domestic violence from a woman? If you haven't just look it up. I mean, I could literally go on and on about the double standards and the rude and often nasty behaviour which women display on a daily basis because they know that there won't be consequences for them as a woman, but I'd be here for hours. It would be interesting, genuinely to hear about the day to day double standards affecting women as I'm sure there are some, but I know for a fact there are just not as many because society protects women in a way that it doesn't protect men. Women are 'the fairer sex' after all. We very quickly hear about issues affecting women, men need to keep quiet, 'man up' and get on with it - and that comes from women,

Now your stats, while there is some truth to some (not all) of them, they are just stats about issues which affect women which we hear about ALL the time. My problem and argument on this thread is that we simply don't hear about the issues affecting men. They are laughed at by feminists and laughed at and ignored by the media. I have provided examples of this. Given how seriously those issues affecting women are taken, it is not right that men do not get the same respect.

Everyday issues for women could be for example how you said men are expected to 'man up' which I don't agree with but also women are seen as weak and fragile and that if they did hit their partner it wouldn't hurt them, which is a dumb stereotype which can affect their partner as them being abused gets ignored. Other examples could be for example the typical slut shaming thing, how if a man sleeps around he's a legend and gets praised whereas a girl is a slut. Its even in the media I saw two news stories for a 'teen' type magazine where it had one story about how the band 5sos posed nude and they were saying how great it is and how they love it and another news story about miley cyrus who also posed nude basically slut shaming her for it. Also everyday I see girls shamed for either not being 'girly' or being too 'girly' for example if a girl doesn't wear makeup or dress amazingly all the time she's not putting effort in and she's not trying hard whereas if she does wear makeup then she's fake and tries to hard. I also see it everyday where girls are told how they should look by guys all the time and its not as common where girls are telling guys how they want them too look. Another one could be in magazines and in the news online for some reason I always see posts about female celebrities that are so negative, for example if they aren't looking perfect people actually write stories with misleading titles such as "(whoever) is letting themselves go" just because they gained a few pounds. I just see constant obsessions with the way girls look and its way less common with guys. Theres also this idea that women are 'emotionally unstable', some people throw around the phrase "she's on her period" when a girl is mad or emotional and it just disregards how they are feeling, a minor thing but its annoying af. Also women may feel a lot of pressure to have children as thats what their 'meant to do'. Thats just a few issues I have seen, other people could probs think of more but yeah.
All of the issues you mentioned I agree and I think they should be talked about more and I know that most feminists do focus on women probably because of how women were treated in the past and I do think issues that men have should be talked about more. Idk I just want people to stop judging each other and their gender and I hope that in the future people don't have these stereotypes and negative ideas about men and women.

Given the fact that in my first month of living in Cologne I had 6 derogotary comments (at least) made towards me and was even grabbed, and invited back to a random mans house whilst sat on the tube minding my own business, I do not think its pointless. At all. We live in such a backwards society.

That's a terrible example.

Cologne is now full of second world low lifes

You would have been fine before they let all the migrants in.

so sexism is okay when its in a different country or if its done by migrants? but no one does it in their own country?
Hahahah most of the comments have been made by German men