The Manchester United Thread XX

Whichever way you look at it, Juve have been mugged off. Napoli's value of Gonzalo is irrelevant to his actual market worth (it's like me saying my PS4 is worth £900, and then somebody paying it and it's argued as a fair price). At least it'll take some of the heat off us with regards to the Pogba price though.

You adjusted for exchange rates though?

Well it's different because unless you have a special feature that makes it hard for you to let go of your PS4(e.g.. it's the last one left, collectors items) then you can just go to the store and buy a new one with ease. Are Napoli going to find another Higuain, or are they going to downgrade on a guy like Icardi?

It's a transfer between two Italian clubs, the exchange rate has little relevance (unless Napoli specifically ask for the money in pounds sterling, which seems unlikely). You are correct, but the value he holds to Napoli doesn't equal the value he now holds to Juve (akin to how Ighalo is "priceless" to Watford, McCormack to Fulham). The price they've just paid is an admission of this however. It's not like there's a lack of quality out there as well, players like Batshuayi have moved in the summer (fair enough he's not Higuain quality yet but the better part of a decade younger) and Lacazette/Gamiero would be available for the right price, which would certainly be less than €94m.

Juve's aim now is the CL.

You don't spend £75million for a striker with a **** record in the completion if you want to win it. Poor move.

Last time Higuain played in the CL he had 4 goals in 5 appearances and he was regularly the number 2 striker at Real Madrid, constantly being subbed off first.

Take for example 11/12, he scored 3 goals in 12 appearances, yet played a grand total of 530 minutes, which equates to a goal every 2 games.
In 09/10 he scores 2 goals in 7 appearances, plays 473 minutes, that's a goal every 2.5 games.
In 12/13 he had a shocking record no two ways about it(1 goal in 483mins)
In 10/11 he had 2 goals in 410mins(just over 1 in 2) and he was injured for large parts of that season anyway.

Plus anyway Fernando Torres scores goals in europe, should Juventus have tried to go for him instead if they wanted to win the CL, or go for a generally more reliable source of goals in Higuain?

They also have Mandzukic and Dybala in place of Higuain if he's having a **** game anyway.

You adjusted for exchange rates though?

Matter of fact is that to Napoli he's worth £75M, his goals are very difficult to replace for Napoli, even if there are strikers around(like Suarez/Costa/Ibra/Cavani/Lewandowski/Aubameyang/Aguero/Sturridge etc.) who have the ability to replicate that kind of form at their various clubs, matter of fact is that none of those players will be sold at this moment in time and not for less than £75M.

JYou don't spend £75million for a striker with a **** record in the completion if you want to win it. Poor move.

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Also, imagine including Sturridge in that list.

Brb, Pogba deal is off because Diaby will sort our midfield out.

Higuain has just gone off the back of a season where he's scored a goal a game in one of the top leagues.

Plus to add to that other than the 10/11 season(where he had an injury for half the season) he'd been getting 15+ league goals as a rotational option at Real Madrid.

Matter of fact is that to Napoli he's worth £75M, his goals are very difficult to replace for Napoli, even if there are strikers around(like Suarez/Costa/Ibra/Cavani/Lewandowski/Aubameyang/Aguero/Sturridge etc.) who have the ability to replicate that kind of form at their various clubs, matter of fact is that none of those players will be sold at this moment in time and not for less than £75M.

Transfer is in euros though(so it actually has validity) and that moh thing was a good one. **** sake his face is punchable. Arsenal probably aren't going to sign anybody else this summer because the pound has weakened anyway.

Sturridge when fit is on the list. Same goes for Harry Kane.

Serie A a top league you know...

I disagree with your logic. In sport you get the best you can, there is no title for pounds spend to points won. If you spend £1 and come second to a team that spends £100m, you came second they won. There are no value trophies in football. If you win and didn't financially collapse, job done.

If Higuian isn't good enough for CL ambitions that is one thing, but the money has nothing to do with that. That argument can be made if they got him on a free. If he is good enough, or is going to move them close enough that chance or another player could finish the job, then they are going to pay what they need to pay. In this case, he's the best striker they can reasonably target and he's within their overall budget. Get it done, period.

The logic you are advocating is basically Wenger's transfer strategy. The problem with that is you either never pay the money for the players you want because their value is inflated by the market around them, or they players you want get purchased by other clubs willing to pay more than you value them. The only players you can buy are ones where they are undiscovered, horrible miscalculations in value, or cast offs. All options which contain huge risk and are situations not within your control. Basically its a recipe for how to run a financially sound club which wins nothing. The value trophy.

The logic is that Juventus are spending a huge amount of money on a player who is unproven on the big stage, and that stage being the Champions League. A trophy Juventus haven't won for roughly 20 years. Presume they wanted to get him to take them to the next stage. Conquered the league and even without him they'll probably win it again. CL is what eludes them and don't see how Higuain helps them in that case. Could prove me wrong, guess we'll find out.

The money is important because they've splashed out £75million on a striker notorious for being one of the biggest bottlers in the sport. Admittedly there aren't many top strikers in the world available but don't believe Higuain is the only top striker on the market.

I would gladly advocate Wenger's transfer policy if it meant I wasn't spending £75million on a guy with a history of bottling. Value for money n ting. If they'd done their business earlier maybe they would have had a chance with someone like Ibra. Wont know now and now they've been taken to the cleaners by Napoli.

Every player's value is inflated by the market so disagree with that point.

Higuain is younger and will be useful for more seasons. Ibra has 0 CLs to his name too.

Higuain is younger and will be useful for more seasons. Ibra has 0 CLs to his name too.

Ibra isn't a WC bottler.

Well he's a main reason why PSG didn't make the CL semi finals last year. Missed a pen, missed a 1 on 1 in the first leg vs City and that should have put them out of sight in the first leg.

But hey it's just Higuain.