Leaving the EU would be like breaking a vow.....

and a sin

Well, it would be more like a divorce really...

We as a nation voted for the EEC in a referendum. We, as a nation, at that time knew that this was more than an Economic Treaty , it was a plan to build a united europe.

To back out now would be akin of breaking a sacred vow - the vow of the sacred democratic ballot box.

67% of the nation voted YES to the EEC.

There is no abuse, we went in with our eyes open.

If you want a LEVEL PLAYING FIELD for trade, one has to have free movement. Poor countries, like poor counties have to be helped to get to the average EU level of wealth.

One cannot complain, Ireland (geographically part of the British Isles) was really poor before 1975 now, thanks to mainly German money its well to do and posh. In a sense, the UK should have paid to make Ireland as rich as the rest of the British Isles as we abused the place for so long - but the Germans did it. Thank you Germany for doing the right thing when we in the UK turned our collective backs on the poor in Ireland.

Now are we going to turn our backs again on the poor of other nations or are we going to do the right thing and stick by our sacred vow to be good brothers and sisters to the wider communities across the seas and fiords.

I think its provably true that doing good does you good.

Can you honestly say that voting NO is a good thing to do for the world at large?

A vote NO is akin of adultery and with-holding cash from your wife and children who are being kicked out of the house and into the gutter so you can house your new mistress.

A divorce where you would be kicking your wife and kids out of the house without a penny and making room for your new mistress who has all the PhDs and exams that you need to run our coffee shops.

Its the morality of the gutter

Got some nice metaphors and emotive language going there. Personally, I am tired of remain AND leave trying to make this a moral issue. As a potential voter, I feel manipulated.

The UK had no idea the EEC would become a bureaucratic, federalist super state. The people who voted to join the EEC are actually much more likely to be in the leave camp.

Why should we care about poor countries? Why don't we take in a few billion of the worlds poor and see if that magically fixes everything? It's just not feasible. Britain isn't built for the population it currently has, thanks to mass immigration.

Vote leave for sovereignty, border control and democracy.

Bureaucratic - YOU MUST BE HAVING A LAUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you have that back to front

In 1975-ish we (the UK) had about 800,000 UK CIVIL SERVANTS....

At least try and make rational sense.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/nov/19/how-the-uk-civil-service-has-changed-in-10-charts

I've gone thru all the treads here and I find just a couple on morality.
Most are economic, political, nationalism, racism, migration, over population

I think I might have hit a nerve.

A pitiful attempt. Everyone knows that the EU is bureaucratic to it's core. The amount of civil servants doesn't make a governing body more bureaucratic, actions do.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/2535295/EU-bureaucrats-outnumber-British-army-two-to-one-say-campaigners.html

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/4053/eu-regulations

Actually I worked for the EU's bureaucractic arm - ECHA for a while (its in Finland). Its an English speaking site, its fully open to the public (the stuff that is allowed to be sold into the EU is controlled here - in a central location - but web access for all. It controls the danger labels you see on bottles but that is the tip of the iceberg. Its really cheap compared to 30 countries all having to do their own thing.

It would be nonsense to turn the clock back so that we all did this. Bonkers. Really cloud cockloo-land. I sort of know as I worked in the place.

http://echa.europa.eu/

(go to the site - about the first thing you will notice is "PUBLIC CONSULTATION" ). There are no army of beaurocrats, or weirdness that you go on about. Just people doing stuff in English for English people and everyone else, cheaply an efficiently. -

We as a nation voted for the EEC in a referendum. We, as a nation, at that time knew that this was more than an Economic Treaty , it was a plan to build a united europe.

To back out now would be akin of breaking a sacred vow - the vow of the sacred democratic ballot box.

67% of the nation voted YES to the EEC.

There is no abuse, we went in with our eyes open.

If you want a LEVEL PLAYING FIELD for trade, one has to have free movement. Poor countries, like poor counties have to be helped to get to the average EU level of wealth.

One cannot complain, Ireland (geographically part of the British Isles) was really poor before 1975 now, thanks to mainly German money its well to do and posh. In a sense, the UK should have paid to make Ireland as rich as the rest of the British Isles as we abused the place for so long - but the Germans did it. Thank you Germany for doing the right thing when we in the UK turned our collective backs on the poor in Ireland.

Now are we going to turn our backs again on the poor of other nations or are we going to do the right thing and stick by our sacred vow to be good brothers and sisters to the wider communities across the seas and fiords.

I think its provably true that doing good does you good.

Can you honestly say that voting NO is a good thing to do for the world at large?

A vote NO is akin of adultery and with-holding cash from your wife and children who are being kicked out of the house and into the gutter so you can house your new mistress.

I've gone thru all the treads here and I find just a couple on morality.
Most are economic, political, nationalism, racism, migration, over population

I think I might have hit a nerve.

Nice trolling from a Brexiter @FredOrJohn

Bored are we?

There's noting wrong with voting no. Most of todays electorate did not vote to join the EU and even if they did it'd simply be changing their mind.

Ireland is not 'well to do and posh' I don't know where you've been visiting.

Your analogy doesn't really work to be honest


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A pitiful attempt. Everyone knows that the EU is bureaucratic to it's core. The amount of civil servants doesn't make a governing body more bureaucratic, actions do.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/2535295/EU-bureaucrats-outnumber-British-army-two-to-one-say-campaigners.html

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/4053/eu-regulations



What's wrong with nationalism?

A pitiful attempt. Everyone knows that the EU is bureaucratic to it's core. The amount of civil servants doesn't make a governing body more bureaucratic, actions do.

There's so much nonsense there it's hard to know where to start pulling that post apart. African countries being in the EU seems a simple enough place to start.

Geographically we already have Africa in the EU.

Italy is the bit of Africa that bashed into Europe to create the Alps (I hope your politics is more accurate than your geography) - Have you ever noticed how its almost impossible to get to Italy without going through great big tunnels????

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adriatic_Plate

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We also have spain's mainland African territories if you wrongly view the EU as a white only geo-social construct.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-14114627

I'm not sure if you are just trying to make me out as silly or just pretending to be silly yourself. As I said I can see things both ways, I'm not closed minded. I was NOT presenting the extreme inclusive case immediately, you note I suggested Tunisia and Israel as a starting point.

(the African territories already have the Euro, so in a way they are already more in the EU than we are)