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MSci v MMath
i am planning to do a masters in maths but i noticed that my UCL's (my insurance) code for the masters in mathematics course is G107 and you end up with a MSci. Warwick (my firm) and everywhere else is G103 and you end up with a MMath.
i wondered if anyone out there knows the difference (in terms of course structure etc.)? and which one is better?
i wondered if anyone out there knows the difference (in terms of course structure etc.)? and which one is better?
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xxx Anneka
As far as I know, they are exactly the same - just different names.
i read that MMath has its masters integrated over the 4 years and is a undergraduate course whereas MSci is a graduate course and is an add on year to the normal 3 years.
but does does anyone know which is better?
Exactly.
MMath = Master of Mathematics.
MSci = Masters in Science.
MSc = Master of Science.
MSci = MMath
MSc > MSci/MMath
.ACS.
I think it’s a bit debatable as to whether a MSc is better than MSci/MMath.
No its not. Its a well known fact, lol.
http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=422292
Is it? I think you'll find its more a "common but neverless mistaken belief"
Is it? I think you'll find its more a "common but neverless mistaken belief"
.ACS.
I think you’ll find you’re quite mistaken.
No, i think you'll find your mistaken.
MSc > MSci, there is no doubt about that. Maybe you think when i say '>' i'm referring to the length of the course, cause seriously i don't know what in the green hell your talking about.
With all other things being equal, MSc > MSci, this is not opinion its fact.
andy5788
Point us to some proof then. Or are you talking out of your arse? Show us some specifications of 4th year mathematics courses that you understand that prove one is harder than the other.
I don't have to prove anything. It's like making me having to prove, 2 is a bigger number than 1. It's a well known fact a MSc > MSci/MMath, you are seriously looking like a fool for arguing about something that is essentially deemed a fact by employers/academics.
I have nothing more to say.
Gunner1989
I don't have to prove anything. It's like making me having to prove, 2 is a bigger number than 1. It's a well known fact a MSc > MSci/MMath, you are seriously looking like a fool for arguing about something that is essentially deemed a fact by employers/academics.
I have nothing more to say.
I have nothing more to say.
You are talking crap kid. There are some places where Msc goes into SLIGHTLY more depth than the 4th year of Msci, and that's very debatable. They are considered equal may it be by employers or academics, fact. And both routes lead to Phd. I personally prefer to do a Bsc followed by an Msc because I want to go to a different uni for my masters.
The main difference is that for the Msc, you need to go through the whole admission process again whereas to get into the 4th year Msci/MMath, you need to get a 2.1 in your 3rd year.
they're not the same they are different. for the 4th year on the MMath programme you do 120 credits.
for the 1 year masters programme you do 180 credits and study for 12 months - for the 4th year of the MMath - you only study 9 months.
the advantage of doing the 4 year mmath is that you pay undergrad rate tuition fees - and dont have to do the whole application thing again. less red tape. whereas if you do the 3 year BSc and apply for the MSc - then you have to do the whole application process and apply for funding too - usually viA EPSRC (even if you decided to do your Masters at the same uni as u did the BSc)
for the 1 year masters programme you do 180 credits and study for 12 months - for the 4th year of the MMath - you only study 9 months.
the advantage of doing the 4 year mmath is that you pay undergrad rate tuition fees - and dont have to do the whole application thing again. less red tape. whereas if you do the 3 year BSc and apply for the MSc - then you have to do the whole application process and apply for funding too - usually viA EPSRC (even if you decided to do your Masters at the same uni as u did the BSc)
So Orientalist i think your the one who's talking crap.
1) A MSc contains more credits than the 4th year of a MSci/MMath. (180 as opposed to 120)
2) You have to do a proper dissertation in a MSc.
3) The most obvious one. You cannot take 3rd year modules like in most MSci/MMath courses in their 4th year. All the courses on an MSc are at a postgraduate level.
MSc > MSci/MMath. Fact, not opinion. Employers and academics know this.
Gunner1989
So Orientalist i think your the one who's talking crap.
1) A MSc contains more credits than the 4th year of a MSci/MMath. (180 as opposed to 120)
2) You have to do a proper dissertation in a MSc.
3) The most obvious one. You cannot take 3rd year modules like in most MSci/MMath courses in their 4th year. All the courses on an MSc are at a postgraduate level.
MSc > MSci/MMath. Fact, not opinion. Employers and academics know this.
1) A MSc contains more credits than the 4th year of a MSci/MMath. (180 as opposed to 120)
2) You have to do a proper dissertation in a MSc.
3) The most obvious one. You cannot take 3rd year modules like in most MSci/MMath courses in their 4th year. All the courses on an MSc are at a postgraduate level.
MSc > MSci/MMath. Fact, not opinion. Employers and academics know this.
1) It depends which uni, the only example you have is that one uni you'll be attending next year.
2) Again maybe for the uni you'll be attending, but I have several examples of 4th year Msci courses have "proper" dissertations too, not any different from the msc. I have friends on both the 4th year MMath and the Msc who are doing the same topic. The lenght of the dissertation is the same, as well as marking.
3) Letting you take 3rd year modules is actually a good thing. 4th year Msci courses have exactly the same module availabilty as Msc, plus they can take a limited amount of 3rd year modules to pursue different branches of maths in which they decided not to specialise in.
If academics are so sure that Msc is superior to Msci/MMath, why are applicants from both courses considered equal for PhD entry? (In my uni, MMath is actually the favoured route for PhD entry).
Sorry for coming across as harsh in my previous post, I sometimes lack the appropriate words.
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