Bill Gates says Brexit would make Britain ‘significantly less attractive

and there it is.

There's a reason why "It is rampant with red tape and protectionism" though, y' know what happens when **** gets a little to deregulated?? *Cough 2008 cough*

Also you haven't actually said why deregulation is better than "protectionism"... or why "protectionism" is bad...

The £350m per week meme is clearly simplistic, but it's concrete, definite and feels eyewatering when the government announces cuts. When the IFS bangs on about leave causing a recession, nobody cares, at all, maybe wealthy people in London, economists. Nobody else.

Are you unironically trying to claim deregulation caused the 2008 crash

Another globalist. Of course he benefits from the EU.

But it was. A failure regulate the financial markets is what caused it.

You don't understand what deregulation is, do you?

Vote leave pal

There's a reason why "It is rampant with red tape and protectionism" though, y' know what happens when **** gets a little to deregulated?? *Cough 2008 cough*

Also you haven't actually said why deregulation is better than "protectionism"... or why "protectionism" is bad...

Lol this entire referendum is a joke I can summarise it like so (as a biased leave supporter I must add):

1) Emotional arguments from remain "ooo boo hoo we r bettur wurking togethr" , "yes but we r betr cuz i can do a gap yah for free (erasmus lol)"
2) "I can't believe you don't want immigration to happen / you are a raging BNP racist islamophobic twit" yet this is ironic as we discriminate against commonwealth countries in this respect - the irony is unbearable
3) The economic benefits - both side seem to throw out figures - not a clue what to believe
4) A government which spends tax payers money persuading us to remain
5) Makes me lol how few people can identify key members of the EU commission despite their "ehh ma gad we have acheeved so much together wiv all de other coutnries"
6) TTIP - how about we just don't listen to America's voice on this whole referendum?

I don't really understand this democracy argument. Every 5 years or so, Rupert Murdoch tells us all who to vote for and then precedes to tell those politicians how to run the country for the next 5 years. We are hardly the model of a good democracy. At least MEPs are proportionally elected.

So what mechanism do we have to remove the upper echelons of the EU? I have not been informed of any.

I don't want the upper echelons of the EU removed. From where I sit, the majority of the stuff coming out of the EU is of benefit to me personally, specifically human rights and workers rights. Leave politicians argue that we could implement our own version of these directives, but when the home secretary is hell bent on getting ISPs to spy on our every moves and a work and pensions minister eroding workers rights left, right and centre I actually have more trust and faith in the EU at looking after our rights than those of our own leaders.

The trouble with the leave argument for me is that it is rather vague and non-specific. We don't like red tape, but no one seems to be able to tell me even on rule that is hampering business. We hate immigration from the EU yet seem unable to tackle the immigration we can control. We want sovereignty from the EU but there is no mention of what we would actually do with that sovereignty, just that we should have it which feels a bit like obtaining a winning lottery ticket and hiding it under the mattress.

The EU isn't perfect, but it isn't exactly overwhelming either - especially to the man on the street. We only feel a democratic deficit because we are told that is what there is. We only feel Germany is in control because we are told so. No one can actually produce any evidence to back up this emotive rhetoric.

If they get their hands on an EU army to enforce their will I think you will be seeing a much different side to these leaders and as you've already agreed on a system without a method of their removal. This can only go one way.

But again - what is so terrible about a European army? I mean seriously. Given that the UK was a founding nation of the European alliance after WW2, do we really feel threatened by a joint army in the EU? Really? Honestly?

And for a bit of context, just look at the absolute shash up our good old UK policy / army have done to the world. In recent times we have screwed up Iraq, had a major part in screwing up Afghanistan and decidedly screwed up Libya. And that is to say nothing of some of the decisions we made when relinquishing our former colonies. If there is one thing the world really doesn't need, it is the British army controlled by British politicians.

And when you say "They" as in the EU, surely that includes us. We are the EU. It isn't them and us, it is simply the club, whom we are influential members.

It is irrelevant if you feel we are a founding nation of the EU because it only matters how much power we have in it, which is almost none. Certainly not in line with the amount of wealth we bring it.

Yes they screwed up and we were able to express our anger at them at election time, a luxury we don't have when it comes to the EU.

I say they as in the ones who hold the power within the EU, which is not us.