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So sad, a horrible death.
Original post by WBZ144
Unless they are White Muslims it has rarely happened since 9/11. Here are just a couple of sources of many which show the reluctance to call even him a terrorist. Many times he is a "gunman" or a "mass murderer":
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/norway/12196616/Dont-call-Anders-Breivik-a-terrorist-he-is-a-sad-fantasist-leading-an-army-of-one.html

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/jul/27/breivik-not-terrorist-insane-murderer


So how come you can easily find countless newspaper articles in Google referring to Brevik as a terrorist? But then again you knew that since you'd have been on Google to find the article you posted. Very dishonest!
Labour brought unlimited immigration, the thoughtcrime islamophobia and illegal intervention.

I cannot sympathise a great deal with the extreme left in this case. On the other hand this killing seems a bit pointless despite her criminal support of the rebellion in Syria.

If anyone deserves such misfortune then it is Tony Blair who continues to escape justice making a mockery of us all.
Original post by KimKallstrom
So how come you can easily find countless newspaper articles in Google referring to Brevik as a terrorist? But then again you knew that since you'd have been on Google to find the article you posted. Very dishonest!


The fact that this isn't something that was unanimously agreed upon and that there is even debate on whether or not he is a terrorist supports my point. I have never seen similar disputes in the case of labelling a Middle Eastern terrorist, mainstream media outlets can find a common ground when the terrorist fits their criteria.
Britain First have said they want him 'hung by his neck on a lamp post'

Even they don't agree with what this man did
Original post by WBZ144
Because that was when we started to have an unspoken criteria that had to be satisfied before labelling someone a terrorist.

On the other hand when it's a Muslim, he or she is labelled as terrorist immediately. No one debates the use of the label or waits for a trial or psychiatric report.


No, 9/11 saw the beginning of the era when virtually all major terrorist attacks were carried out in the name of Islam. Terrorism seems to work in eras where there's a different threat.

Are people not bringing up the Orlando shooters mental health? When women with Down syndrome were used to carry explosives was there medical condition not publicised to show it wasn't there fault?

The simple fact is there have been very few terrorist attacks by whites in recent years. It's very easy to make an offence fit terrorism (in law) when it's carried out by a Muslim because all you really need to do is tie them to some sort of organisation. There are no white groups that are using the murder of civilians to further their cause so calling a white person a terrorist is going to be more difficult and would probably take longer; a newspaper wouldn't want to label someone a terrorist where they can sued.


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Original post by Underscore__

The simple fact is there have been very few terrorist attacks by whites in recent years.


Incorrect, the majority of European terrorist attacks are carried out by (mainly white) separatist organisations such as ETA.
Original post by sweeneyrod
Incorrect, the majority of European terrorist attacks are carried out by (mainly white) separatist organisations such as ETA.


When was the last time ETA killed someone? Or even committed an attack?


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They've destroyed our homeland and robbed our people of a future.

Traitor isn't enough to describe these people in power.
Original post by Underscore__
No, 9/11 saw the beginning of the era when virtually all major terrorist attacks were carried out in the name of Islam. Terrorism seems to work in eras where there's a different threat.

Are people not bringing up the Orlando shooters mental health? When women with Down syndrome were used to carry explosives was there medical condition not publicised to show it wasn't there fault?

The simple fact is there have been very few terrorist attacks by whites in recent years. It's very easy to make an offence fit terrorism (in law) when it's carried out by a Muslim because all you really need to do is tie them to some sort of organisation. There are no white groups that are using the murder of civilians to further their cause so calling a white person a terrorist is going to be more difficult and would probably take longer; a newspaper wouldn't want to label someone a terrorist where they can sued.


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Terrorist attacks in the West were carried out in the name of Islam, correction.

Most articles I have seen about the Orlando shooter still refer to him as a terrorist, which is justified, but the same treatment should be extended to all terrorists.

In the UK perhaps, in the USA where the Orlando attacks happened White supremacists in the recent years have shot up Black churches and synagogues. Many of those groups are very violent, or do advocate violence in one way or another.
Original post by WBZ144
Terrorist attacks in the West were carried out in the name of Islam, correction..


Why is this a correction? It's exactly what I said.

Original post by WBZ144
Most articles I have seen about the Orlando shooter still refer to him as a terrorist, which is justified, but the same treatment should be extended to all terrorists..


The same thing is extended to all terrorists.

Original post by WBZ144
In the UK perhaps, in the USA where the Orlando attacks happened White supremacists in the recent years have shot up Black churches and synagogues. Many of those groups are very violent, or do advocate violence in one way or another.


An attack such as Dylann Roof was not terrorism. It was racially motivated murder which falls under hate crime. It's quite difficult using examples from the US when talking about terrorism, they don't have a nailed down definition like we do



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Original post by Underscore__
Why is this a correction? It's exactly what I said.Posted from TSR Mobile


You said "virtually all major terrorist attacks were carried out in the name of Islam", implying that this was the same worldwide.

Original post by Underscore__
The same thing is extended to all terrorists.Posted from TSR Mobile


Then why the debate on whether or not White Christian terrorists are terrorists which never happens in the case of Middle Eastern Muslims (or Muslims in general)?

Original post by Underscore__
An attack such as Dylann Roof was not terrorism. It was racially motivated murder which falls under hate crime. It's quite difficult using examples from the US when talking about terrorism, they don't have a nailed down definition like we doPosted from TSR Mobile


Wouldn't the same apply to an attack motivated by homophobia? The Orlando attacks happened in the US as well.
Original post by WBZ144
You said "virtually all major terrorist attacks were carried out in the name of Islam", implying that this was the same worldwide.


Is that not the case at the moment?

Original post by WBZ144
Then why the debate on whether or not White Christian terrorists are terrorists which never happens in the case of Middle Eastern Muslims (or Muslims in general)?


Well in most cases of middle eastern Muslims committing terrorists attacks they're dead before there's a chance to debate their mental health. Also you can only really cite Anders Breivik as an example of a white terrorists who's mental health was debated as a possible defence.

Original post by WBZ144
Wouldn't the same apply to an attack motivated by homophobia? The Orlando attacks happened in the US as well.


Dylann Roof wasn't inspired by and didn't contribute to the ideology of a global terrorist group. That's the extra layer to the Orlando attack.


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