The I-SOC (Islamic Society) XIII

The Saudis are totally incompetent and their campaign is only causing more civilian deaths, and they don't like to admit that.
Despite the British weaponry and advice they are unable to bring an end to this.
The huthis meanwhile continuing their executions and indiscriminate bombing.
On the other hand you also have AQ Yemen making as much gains as they can in the south while everyone else is busy.
And in all of this poor civilians are stuck in the middle suffering.

the Children of Israel were sent down the most messengers in the entire world so clearly. There's something fishy about them

While having one peaceful interpretation laid down by scholars which every single Muslim followed would be excellent, in practice this is not possible. There are about 1.6 billion Muslims on the earth (I believe? Correct me if not) and there will always be people who would disagree with said interpretation or perhaps even be unaware of the existence of this interpretation. Therefore we are left with something which has a fundamental flaw and from which extremist ideas can spread.

I have some other questions which I have been pondering. I wonder, what are the views on homosexuality from people in this thread? Or more specifically do people believe that homosexuality is a choice? If you believe that it is not a choice then clearly Allah must be cruel, since he created all homosexual people and it is not a choice, then he has put them on this earth doomed to enter the fires of hell for eternity no matter what they do.

On the contrary if you believe that it is a choice and people have the ability choose to be aroused by a member of the same sex, then you believe that these people purposefully choose to make their lives harder? It is a fact that some Muslims are gay and imagine how hard it must be for them thinking of the fires awaiting them when they die, or even on this earth, the reaction of their families, why would they choose this?

My last question concerns myself. Although I do not believe in Paradise or in hell (I think they are just excellent indoctrination tools) I know people here do, it is simply in my nature (the way Allah made me) to question things for which there is no hard evidence. I simply could not be a fully fledged believer in Islam even if I wanted to unless I saw a supernatural miracle. Therefore I ask has the God which you believe in created me to be consigned to hell?

Thank you for taking the time to read this.

there is nothing at all "fishy" about the children of Israel

they are following their religion, just like you are following yours

best

havent seen anyone comment so thought id mention saudi led bombing campaign in yemen re started today , carpet bombing sanaa,
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/saudi-arabia-yemen-war-bombing-civilian-deaths-peace-talks-collapse-a7180531.html

A poor girl injured by regime snipers. Suffering in madaya, no painkillers just pain.
Regime forces and hizbul-murder refuse any aid to enter, or let civilians leave.
She says to them '' think of me as your daughter, your sister''
[video="youtube;4cFEhyxhEpc"]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cFEhyxhEpc[/video]

saudi and the arab states have an agenda of their own.
i can see you are trying to spark off another incendiary as you did before about kashmir - lets again get it clear, the problems in kashmir are 100% down to the fact islamists operate freely from accross the border and hide themselves amoung the villagers there to plot attacks - just like any islamist groups operate in uk, france, germany, sweden, iraq, usa canada etc etc . there is no agenda there or any of these other places- just a failure of the muslim world to control the spread of islamist terrorism by apologising for it (you are a good example of this)

I'm not trying to spark anything big man. You quoted me so I read your post and replied. If you don't want me to quote you and state my dislike of leaders of countries who kill Muslims e.g. India, Saudi, Iran etc... then it's best not to quote my 2 day old post randomly.

It's a shame you make excuses for Indian state terrorism but then try to shame Saudi. It seems you're OK with some killers but not others. I'm sure the Saudi would also try to claim they were only trying to aim for houthi terrorists.

Man why are you vexed all the time. Relax. Every time you come in here, you accuse Muslims of apologising for/ supporting/sympathising with terrorists. Your deep hatred for us probably isn't good for your heath



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saudi is carpet bombing whole cities, for the promotion of its suni islam agenda . india is hunting terrorists hiding amoung villages, not the same thing by even the most desperate stretch. uk, usa, french etc all are hunting terrorists globally because islamist terrorism is a global problem. india just has a more basic method than americans and europeans. it isnt an 'agenda' . i replied to you becuase despite your constant posts about syria, kashmir etc, youve been pindrop silent as to what saudi and gulf arabs is doing in yemen. ....

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/saudi-arabia-coalition-market-yemen-war-crisis-a6932771.html

If this was Assad (or Iran or Russia or Israel or America) there would be fury from Muslims.

Do you mind me asking what 41:16 stands for?
Is that secret code?

I see. So you made your initial post to bait me rather than because of sadness due to loss of human life. Blinding hundreds of innocent people with pellet guns isn't fighting exactly islamic terrorism but like you said, India is basic and has to start it's state terrorism somewhere.

No you've just not been stalking me properly, luckily I saved a post specially for people like you (see below). You're welcome to browse all my posts and have a looksy for more examples (I'm too busy to do it for you)


Next time, if you feel the urge to bait me because of our past disagreements, I'd resist that urge.

baiting = making up a lot of bs to instil a reaction - ie your comment "
Blinding hundreds of innocent people with pellet guns " seeing as kashmir ( espec based in pakistan side) has various confirmed blacklisted operating islamist groups recognised the world over as terrorist groups, kind of makes your squabbling with me irrelevant, simply shows you are in support of these groups and have a problem with countries taking actions against them. i assume you hold the same opinion of such groups operating in europe, uk too?

i just commented on the re-starting of bombing of yemen by saudi

Go have a snicker.

I want some snickers too

Salaam, anyone paying for uni out of their own pockets?
I don't see how it's doable if you come from a low-income family...it's easy to say take a few years out and earn but with no qualifications the amount you can earn (and save) is very limited...nowhere near £27,000+ :/

Salaam, anyone paying for uni out of their own pockets?
I don't see how it's doable if you come from a low-income family...it's easy to say take a few years out and earn but with no qualifications the amount you can earn (and save) is very limited...nowhere near £27,000+ :/

Salaam, anyone paying for uni out of their own pockets?
I don't see how it's doable if you come from a low-income family...it's easy to say take a few years out and earn but with no qualifications the amount you can earn (and save) is very limited...nowhere near £27,000+ :/

You should still be able to get a maintenance grant from student finance (which you don't have pay back, so don't have to deal with interests). The loan part, I'm think you can reject taking that? I'm not so sure, it's been so long since I dealt with student finance

Otherwise I'm sure others may have some advice on how to do it. I ended up taking a student loan for uni