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Original post by timebent
oh ffs everytime why doesn't it go in *rips eyeballs out

http://www.examsolutions.net/a-level-maths-papers/Edexcel/Further-Maths/Further-Maths-FP1/2013-June/paper.php#Q3
is k 22? no it's not i got it now

no can you do part b for me pls i don't even know what i'm doing -.-'

k=30 though


As the other user said, the way to go is algebraic division. I used (x - 1/2) as a factor but the other form is also applicable if you don't like to deal with fractions.


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Original post by B_9710
If x=1/2 is a solution then (2x-1) is a factor of the cubic.
Algebraic division is the way forward.


that's what i did but it doesn't work eventually i just get x^2 -4x+2 which doesn't give be a complex conjugate, it just gives me root 2 +2

so you'll be asking for my workings
Reply 62
Original post by timebent
that's what i did but it doesn't work eventually i just get x^2 -4x+2 which doesn't give be a complex conjugate, it just gives me root 2 +2

so you'll be asking for my workings


Your very last step when doing algebraic division is wrong. You should get the quotient to be x24x+13 x^2-4x+13 .
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Original post by B_9710
Your very last step when doing algebraic division is wrong. You should get the quotient to be x24x+13 x^2-4x+13 .


oh -.-' everytime....
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Original post by B_9710
Your very last step when doing algebraic division is wrong. You should get the quotient to be x24x+13 x^2-4x+13 .


http://www.examsolutions.net/a-level-maths-papers/Edexcel/Further-Maths/Further-Maths-FP1/2013-January/paper.php#Q5
i decided to start with the left bracket.

So i tried to solve for x and see what i'd get, since the question told me there'll be 2 conjugate pairs in total i should get 1 pair from this bracket on the left.

4x2+9=0[br][br]4x2=9[br][br]x2=94[br][br]x=944x^2 +9=0[br][br]4x^2=-9[br][br]x^2=-\frac{9}{4}[br][br]x=\sqrt {-\frac{9}{4}}
Sorry I was out.

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Original post by timebent
http://www.examsolutions.net/a-level-maths-papers/Edexcel/Further-Maths/Further-Maths-FP1/2013-January/paper.php#Q5
i decided to start with the left bracket.

So i tried to solve for x and see what i'd get, since the question told me there'll be 2 conjugate pairs in total i should get 1 pair from this bracket on the left.

4x2+9=0[br][br]4x2=9[br][br]x2=94[br][br]x=944x^2 +9=0[br][br]4x^2=-9[br][br]x^2=-\frac{9}{4}[br][br]x=\sqrt {-\frac{9}{4}}


Basically, anything which is negative and is square rooted.
It is basically, that number square rooted i.

I'll post examples wait.


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Original post by Chittesh14
Sorry I was out.

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Original post by Chittesh14
Basically, anything which is negative and is square rooted.
It is basically, that number square rooted i.

I'll post examples wait.


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Thank you Thank you Thank you so much ^-^
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Uh... 16=4±4i\sqrt{16} = 4 \neq \pm 4i.
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Original post by timebent
http://www.examsolutions.net/a-level-maths-papers/Edexcel/Further-Maths/Further-Maths-FP1/2013-January/paper.php#Q5
i decided to start with the left bracket.

So i tried to solve for x and see what i'd get, since the question told me there'll be 2 conjugate pairs in total i should get 1 pair from this bracket on the left.

4x2+9=0[br][br]4x2=9[br][br]x2=94[br][br]x=944x^2 +9=0[br][br]4x^2=-9[br][br]x^2=-\frac{9}{4}[br][br]x=\sqrt {-\frac{9}{4}}


Your last step is wrong, x2=a    x=±ax^2 = a \iff x = \pm \sqrt{a} so x=±32ix = \pm \frac{3}{2} i which are indeed conjugate pairs.
Original post by Zacken
Uh... 16=4±4i\sqrt{16} = 4 \neq \pm 4i.


You know what I meant... -16 Zacky boy.


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Original post by timebent
Thank you Thank you Thank you so much ^-^


Np. Try to follow what Zacken said and solve the second bracket.


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Original post by Zacken
Your last step is wrong, x2=a    x=±ax^2 = a \iff x = \pm \sqrt{a} so x=±32ix = \pm \frac{3}{2} i which are indeed conjugate pairs.

oh oops i mean to put 3/2 there not the 9 and 4
thanks ^-^
Original post by Chittesh14
Np. Try to follow what Zacken said and solve the second bracket.


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yup...
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Original post by timebent
oh oops i mean to put 3/2 there not the 9 and 4
thanks ^-^


Uh, no, that wasn't the mistake... the mistake was not including the ±\pm.
Reply 75
Original post by Zacken
Uh, no, that wasn't the mistake... the mistake was not including the ±\pm.


Oh ;_; when will i stop making these small mistakes
Original post by timebent
x


Did u manage to solve it in the end?


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Original post by Zacken
Uh, no, that wasn't the mistake... the mistake was not including the ±\pm.


not sure if the method i used is called factor theorem or inspection
http://www.examsolutions.net/a-level-maths-papers/Edexcel/Further-Maths/Further-Maths-FP1/2012-January/paper.php#Q5
but for this question if it gives me one complex number and there's 3 roots then i know it's got to be a pair

and i used inspection or factor theorem or whatever it's called and tried 2 and got lucky so where would i get my marks assuming that this is my working

z2=3iz_2 =3-i because it has a pair

let z38z2+22z20=f(z)z^3 -8z^2 +22z-20=f(z)

f(2)=8-32+44-20=0

therefore z=2 thus z-2 is a factor
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Original post by Chittesh14
Did u manage to solve it in the end?


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yes i got the pair for the other bracket easily and i drew the diagram correctly
Original post by timebent
yes i got the pair for the other bracket easily and i drew the diagram correctly


Great :smile:.


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