Regressive left tries to twist Munich narrative to suit their agenda

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I hope you come back to the real world soon.

You smug idiots are the ones denying reality. I hope you feel proud when you spinelessly ease the way via appeasement and biased coverage for the muslim rule of Europe and the destruction of our way of life.

Reply 61

Crassy

MrSplash

I hope you come back to the real world soon.

I live very much in the real world. Are you saying media bias doesn't exist?

Reply 62

MrSplash

Original post by SaucissonSecCy

He had written material on Breivik(apparently, though I don't trust them given their record and referendum behaviour not to make stuff up)so that means he can't be an islamist, just because he studies the methods or killers?

And I've been generous there, that wording just suggests 'written material' it doesn't say about Brevei, but tries to imply it indirectly-that is suspicious, if they had legal conviction they would state it explicitly.

I am beginning to hate the BBC. Why are western European media and politicians like this? I know this type of think was correlated to the plan for an EU superstate too. The people are right not to trust liberal elites, they are masters of propaganda, and seem to have some dark plan for corporate dictatorship, dissolving nation states, and the obliteration of communities, with the worst effects of 'diversity', and mass immigration, which none of them, as privileged as they are, live with, and which they wish to divide and conquer. The BBC aren't worth a penny, I now refuse to watch them.

Oh can anyone PM me please, if you are opposed to their behaviour also, because I have a petition about the license fee going.

This is what happens to you whrn you watch infowars. Use this as a warning.

Reply 63

Joep95

Original post by MrSplash

This is what happens to you whrn you watch infowars. Use this as a warning.

Do you honestly believe that media outlets aren't biased? Every single one of them are.

Reply 64

username1969391

Gunman's name is 'Ali David Sonboly'.

This woman on twitter abbreviates it to 'David S'; presumably to make it more German sounding :colonhash:

Spoiler

Reply 65

nexttimeigetvpn

Original post by NickLCFC

Gunman's name is 'Ali David Sonboly'.

This woman on twitter abbreviates it to 'David S'; presumably to make it more German sounding :colonhash:

Spoiler

Equally you bigots smudge Islam as the responsibility every time someone of Middle-Eastern ethnicity commits these atrocities.

Reply 66

SaucissonSecCy

Original post by MrSplash

This is what happens to you whrn you watch infowars. Use this as a warning.

Never watched it in my life, very clever comment though. You're right, islamism is no problem, it's incompatibility with the west is a myth. When I look at the islamic world, I think how great it will be when we live like that, all aided by our mad political and media class.

Reply 67

username1969391

Original post by nexttimeigetvpn

Equally you bigots smudge Islam as the responsibility every time someone of Middle-Eastern ethnicity commits these atrocities.

Whether you like it not, that's because it usually is the case. In this instance however, it seems as though the shooter could have been mentally ill and/or seemingly 'obsessed' with mass shootings. That's if eyewitness reports of him saying 'Allahu Akbar' are false.

Reply 68

username1595471

Original post by NickLCFC

Gunman's name is 'Ali David Sonboly'.

This woman on twitter abbreviates it to 'David S'; presumably to make it more German sounding :colonhash:

Spoiler

Someone asked her "why are you, an alleged journalist, hiding his real name?" and she answered "if you're unable to be polite, pls unfollow me." Just ROFL. 'David S', indeed. The desperation of some people to pretend he wasn't Muslim.

Reply 69

Charzhino

Why is everyone still insisting this is linked with Islam if the reports in the news are adamant its not ISIS related?*

Reply 70

nexttimeigetvpn

Original post by NickLCFC

The shooters in "islamist attacks" are also mentally ill or 'obsessed' with mass shootings, there is no fundamental difference between those who commit atrocities in the name of Islam or for far-right purposes. The only difference is the purported motive, they all boil down to broken, hateful individuals who want to harm as many people as possible.

Reply 71

Clee Torres

Original post by The Epicurean

It isn't unfathomable that in light of the recent Islamist attacks that a far right group would react. Information was sketchy last night and the descriptions about what he said and the fact that it took place on the 5th anniversary of the Anders Breivik attack all helped to skew the picture. Nobody knew 100% of the details last night so all people could do was guess based on the evidence available (which is what happens every time there is an attack). Guessing incorrectly doesn't cover up anything, as the fact is that the truth will come out the next day as details become more clear, so nobody can really be fooled.

If it was a far right terrorist, don't you think he/she would target Muslims and refugees in particular, not random people outside a McDonald's, so a mosque or a camp?

It was pretty clear to me when I heard shots had been fired in a shopping centre that this was ISIS.

Reply 72

slaven

The guy was an Iranian born in Germany. It seems like a case of Sunni-Shia circlejerk.

Reply 73

Clee Torres

Original post by Fullofsurprises

Exactly this. Sky News for example, disgustingly announced it as "another suspected homegrown radicalised attack" when they first trailed it, a clear indicator that we were supposed to assume it to have been Islamist.

A reaction 80-90% of the German and rest of Europe population altogether had too.

Just like Nice, people jumped to the conclusion that he was Muslim and IS-affiliated... he was.

Reply 74

DanGG

Original post by Charzhino

Why is everyone still insisting this is linked with Islam if the reports in the news are adamant its not ISIS related?*

How in the world can you believe the news so naively... People behind the BBC, Sky, etc have their own agenda to carry out, their own propaganda to carry out.

In this case, they're merely trying to avoid calling anyone a Islamic terrorist because they're afraid of being called racist. Only until recently, for example, did Hillary Clinton call a terrorist act Islamic radicalism... The same for Obama, etc and of course, the media, some of which are yet to call terrorism by its true name.

Reply 75

Gherk

The point of terrorism is to make people fear. Clearly they're doing a great job if people are automatically going to assume everything is isis related despite the contrary being stated. Nobody was covering up the lorry attack...

Reply 76

oShahpo

Original post by Foo.mp3

Perhaps you missed that various atrocities associated with ethno-cultural clashes that have been going on/getting worse around the globe/Western world, the post-Brexit backlash against immigrants, and the breakdown in race relations in the US?

That's just the thin end of the wedge. Educate yourself amigo

You said Multi-culturalism is failing, and since multiculturalism is the existence of various cultures within geographic vicinity, and we do have various cultures living somewhat harmoniously in Britain at the very least, then it's not failing.

First of all I am talking about Britain, what's happening in America is up to the Americans, and what's happening in France is up to the French, every country has a different situation and different ethnic minorities so we can't just generalise.

I will argue by analogy because your argument, while it has some essence, is very facile. The odds you will die from a car crash is far higher than the odds you will die from a "cultural-clash" such as an Islamist terror attack. Does this mean the automotive industry is failing?

Multiculturalism is not a perfect thing, and it does bring trouble, but it is an inevitable consequence of a far more important concept, which is multi-racialism. Now you can argue all you want against multi-racialism, but you can't dispute it's positive effect on expanding the British economy.

If it was up to me, I'd love this country to have one culture, the British culture, and no religion. However, it isn't. We are a multi-racial nation and that leads to having several cultures.

Now are those cultural clashes sufficient to eliminate the multi-racialism of Britain? I don't think so. There are about 8 mil Brits who are not White, I would say 99% of them or more are living a fair life where they're not institutionally discriminated against based on their race. Some of them are discriminated against for being Muslims for example, but that's up to them, if they wish to leave the religion and change their names they can do so and such discrimination won't occur, again it's up to them to decide that, not us.

Is the life of Britons affected by those cultural-clashes enough to eliminate multi-racialism? I doubt it.
Yea we have terrorist attacks, but we also have plane crashes and car crashes and murderous nutters, all of which contribute much much more deaths than Islamist terror attacks. We have been successfully dealing with Islamic extremism to this very day, by not engaging in the Syrian war and so on.
Yea the landscape of a lot of places in London and B'ham has changed, but still this is only a tiny proportion of England. The rest of the country, which I would say 99% of the country, is perfectly English. Also, we can restore the Englishness of those areas without having to kick its people out. We can enforce English shop signs, limit the number of certain shops and trades and empower the locals to start their own English businesses that retain the heritage of the beautiful place that is London for example.

Feel free to correct me or point out to me why, in Britain, we can't live with people from different races. I know that's not your argument, but you can't have uni-culturalism in a multi-racial society, at least not now, maybe after a hundred years or so when the different races perfectly assimilate into Britain, like most Blacks did.

Reply 77

Trapz99

Original post by Crassy

How on earth? Breivik targeted political opponents with an ideological aim, this guy targeted people indiscriminately. Whether apolitical or an Islamic attack, how the hell is it similar to Breivik apart from the left wanting to keep his memory alive?

I'm just saying what they said. Not my opinion.

Reply 78

Fullofsurprises

Original post by Clee Torres

A reaction 80-90% of the German and rest of Europe population altogether had too.

Just like Nice, people jumped to the conclusion that he was Muslim and IS-affiliated... he was.

There's no evidence of IS affiliation, unless you have information that the German police and security services don't?

Reply 79

The Epicurean

Original post by Clee Torres

We didn't know at the time if the terrorist only targeted certain people for example. They could have went into a Halal restaurant in the shopping mall. The details weren't there at the time.