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Original post by flameskid0909
You mean ABB, right? Otherwise I'm hopelessly confused.


As I stated in my previous post, Edinburgh's minimum requirement might be ABB but their typical offer is AAA. Read the link I posted.
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I'm confused now with regards to reputation of unis, courses as well as their entry requirements vs who actually gets accepted.

I ended up getting AAB so missed out on Durham and UCL for natural sciences (A*AA and AAA respectively) but managed to get a place at Nottingham, even though they originally wanted A*AA too (I originally got an offer for the same course with them but I didn't choose them). So although I was rather grateful that I got into an A*AA 'worth' course - it makes me wonder why it was lowered so much for clearing? I wonder how many of those who made them firm/insurance also got less than A*AA, which makes me wonder why they set it at A*AA at all?

Of course I could've done worse, I guess I'm lucky I got into a course I originally applied to at a uni I've visited and know about the course, instead of ending up at a totally different university/course, but I'm still disappointed with my result and the difference in reputation between Nott'm and my original top two choices. I really couldn't do with a gap year yet I sometimes keep contemplating if I'm not happy at Nottingham, that I would reapply to other universities for 'lower standard' courses that only need AAB, and then going there? For example Bristol did give me a clearing offer for 'Environmental Geoscience' which was originally only an AAB course anyway, but I decided against it thinking it was a lower standard of course given the requirements, as well as being a new place and course to me, and it seems reputation-wise there isn't a huge difference. I despise UCL now but for me the main disappointment is not getting into Durham. They also offer 'environmental geosciences' at AAB too, but said that they were full this year.
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Original post by bj1
Of course I could've done worse, I guess I'm lucky I got into a course I originally applied to at a uni I've visited and know about the course, instead of ending up at a totally different university/course, but I'm still disappointed with both my result and the difference in reputation between Nott'm and my original top two choices. I really couldn't do with a gap year yet I sometimes keep contemplating if I'm not happy at Nottingham, that I would reapply to 'better' universities for 'lower standard' courses that only need AAB, and then going there? For example Bristol did give me a clearing offer for 'Environmental Geoscience' which was originally only an AAB course anyway, but I decided against it thinking it was a lower standard of course given the entry requirements, as well as being a totally new place and course to me, and it seems reputation-wise there isn't a huge difference. I despise UCL now but for me the main disappointment is not getting into Durham. They also offer 'environmental geosciences' at AAB too, but said that they were full this year.


There's no such thing as an 'A*AA worth course'. :lolwut:

A university asking for A*AA can either mean they get a lot of applications and need to reduce the pool of candidates, or the university wants to project an image of quality (they rely on students like you assuming they're awesome just because they ask for high grades).

Environmental Geoscience isn't a lower standard course, just less popular than Natural Sciences. More specialised degrees usually have lower entry requirements. If you wanted to do that degree at Durham or UCL then you should have applied for it. This is why research is so important.
Original post by bj1
I'm confused now with regards to reputation of unis, courses as well as their entry requirements vs who actually gets accepted.

I ended up getting AAB so missed out on Durham and UCL for natural sciences (A*AA and AAA respectively) but managed to get a place at Nottingham, even though they originally wanted A*AA too (I originally got an offer for the same course with them but I didn't choose them). So although I was rather grateful that I got into an A*AA 'worth' course - it makes me wonder why it was lowered so much for clearing? I wonder how many of those who made them firm/insurance also got less than A*AA, which makes me wonder why they set it at A*AA at all?

Of course I could've done worse, I guess I'm lucky I got into a course I originally applied to at a uni I've visited and know about the course, instead of ending up at a totally different university/course, but I'm still disappointed with both my result and the difference in reputation between Nott'm and my original top two choices. I really couldn't do with a gap year yet I sometimes keep contemplating if I'm not happy at Nottingham, that I would reapply to 'better' universities for 'lower standard' courses that only need AAB, and then going there? For example Bristol did give me a clearing offer for 'Environmental Geoscience' which was originally only an AAB course anyway, but I decided against it thinking it was a lower standard of course given the entry requirements, as well as being a totally new place and course to me, and it seems reputation-wise there isn't a huge difference. I despise UCL now but for me the main disappointment is not getting into Durham. They also offer 'environmental geosciences' at AAB too, but said that they were full this year.


Why 'despise' UCL for rejecting you when you failed to make their offer?
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Original post by Snufkin
There's no such thing as an 'A*AA worth course'. :lolwut:

A university asking for A*AA can either mean they get a lot of applications and need to reduce the pool of candidates, or the university wants to project an image of quality (they rely on students like you assuming they're awesome just because they ask for high grades).

Environmental Geoscience isn't a lower standard course, just less popular than Natural Sciences. More specialised degrees usually have lower entry requirements. If you wanted to do that degree at Durham or UCL then you should have applied for it. This is why research is so important.

I didn't 'want to' do that course. I always preferred natural sciences as a course because I like to keep my options open and don't want to specialise in something too early. Biological sciences being a second preference, because I was strong in biology, but am also interested in Environment so that's why only now I'm saying I could apply for geoscience at Durham for example - but only due to the grades I have ended up with and 'because it's Durham' - . In other words, it's not my first choice of course, but it's my first choice of university which probably isn't the best idea but sadly that's what has been going through my mind the past few weeks.

I originally applied for NatSci because that' s the course I wanted and I thought I could get the grades, I had good GCSE and AS results, and even had an interview at Oxford last year, but I guess I slipped up this year (thanks a lot Chemistry). While Nott'm is good in it's own right, being RG and all that, and I did get on to the course I wanted - so fingers crossed I'll get over it eventually and be happy there ...
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Original post by ageshallnot
Why 'despise' UCL for rejecting you when you failed to make their offer?

By one grade? When others miss their offer by one or even two grades they still get in?
Not just that - I don't want to litter this thread so I describe my dissatisfaction with their staff and policy here:
http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=4297162&p=67385432#post67385432

You notice that I don't 'despise' Durham because they are truly honest that they don't have room and were unable to admit me on any course (except Pharmacy). But this wasn't the case at UCL...

I regret choosing them in the first place having heard about the current situation regarding rent, student satisfaction, etc, I really should've chosen Imperial...
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Original post by bj1

While Nott'm is good in it's own right, being RG and all that, I'm still disappointed and ashamed to tell everyone but my closest friends and family about my grades and what has happened.


You need both a reality check and someone to demolish that ego of yours

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Original post by Trapz99
No, lol I'm just saying based off the fact that kings only started offering the economics degree a few years ago and is asking for A*AA. I'll hopefully be applying there this year!


Kings do Economics now?

news to me.
Original post by bj1
By one grade? When others miss their offer by one or even two grades they still get in?
Not just that - I regret choosing them in the first place having heard about the current situation regarding rent, student satisfaction, etc, I really should've chosen Imperial which has more academic rigour than UCL which now seems overrated. The staff in general also seemed rude and lacked passion, but unfortunately I was 'bowled over' by the reputation...


Evidence? UCL may have accommodation issues, but that has nothing to do with the teaching quality or the rigour of its degrees. I think you should focus on trying to enjoy Nottingham and stop hating on a university that rejected you - it is not very becoming.
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Original post by Snufkin
I think you should focus on trying to enjoy Nottingham and stop hating on a university that rejected you - it is not very becoming.


I shall certainly try my best to enjoy Nottingham... But for one last time I will say that the UCL-hating it is not 'simply because they rejected me' but it is due to their pointless policy which in short is putting all their courses with vacancies on adjustment and not clearing - so I met the conditions for some yet couldn't get on to them. This has left me a very bad impression of the university. Other universities either do clearing properly or not at all. I don't know any who do adjustment separately to clearing...

I don't want this thread to become more off topic so I'll be leaving it now...
Original post by bj1
I shall certainly try my best to enjoy Nottingham... But for one last time I will say that the UCL-hating it is not 'simply because they rejected me' but it is due to their pointless policy which in short is putting all their courses with vacancies on adjustment and not clearing - so I met the conditions for some yet couldn't get on to them. This has left me a very bad impression of the university. Other universities either do clearing properly or not at all. I don't know any who do adjustment separately to clearing...

I don't want this thread to become more off topic so I'll be leaving it now...



Lol, feel free to continue - I don't mind. Got rejected from Durham (insurance) too and I loved it so much I decided I wouldn't have at all minded going there if I missed my UCL offer (it was like having two firms) so I truly, genuinely feel your pain. But good luck with whatever you do - you have to move on, is what I'm realising.

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Original post by flameskid0909
Lol, feel free to continue - I don't mind. Got rejected from Durham (insurance) too and I loved it so much I decided I wouldn't have at all minded going there if I missed my UCL offer (it was like having two firms) so I truly, genuinely feel your pain. But good luck with whatever you do - you have to move on, is what I'm realising.

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It's late and I hadn't read your earlier posts properly - I didn't know UCL was your firm, and interesting to know Durham was your insurance - So essentially we were in the same position? Over the past few weeks, surrounded by friends celebrating getting into their 1st choice, I've felt like I'm the only one, so it's now good to know you're not the only one - and there was nothing wrong in aiming high, right?

But you're right in saying it was like two firms since they're both very oversubscribed I guess, so can't accept many near misses, unlike more lenient unis.

Edinburgh sounds great, I personally didn't consider the Scottish universities due to the extra year but in the grand scheme of things it's a small price to pay, I'm sure you'll do well - good luck!
I think the key is to focus on the positives - we've got into the courses we wanted and still at RG unis!
Original post by bj1
It's late and I hadn't read your earlier posts properly - I didn't know UCL was your firm, and interesting to know Durham was your insurance - So essentially we were in the same position? Over the past few weeks, surrounded by friends celebrating getting into their 1st choice, I've felt like I'm the only one, so it's now good to know you're not the only one - and there was nothing wrong in aiming high, right?

But you're right in saying it was like two firms since they're both very oversubscribed I guess, so can't accept many near misses, unlike more lenient unis.

Edinburgh sounds great, I personally didn't consider the Scottish universities due to the extra year but in the grand scheme of things it's a small price to pay, I'm sure you'll do well - good luck!
I think the key is to focus on the positives - we've got into the courses we wanted and still at RG unis!


Original post by bj1
It's late and I hadn't read your earlier posts properly - I didn't know UCL was your firm, and interesting to know Durham was your insurance - So essentially we were in the same position? Over the past few weeks, surrounded by friends celebrating getting into their 1st choice, I've felt like I'm the only one, so it's now good to know you're not the only one - and there was nothing wrong in aiming high, right?

But you're right in saying it was like two firms since they're both very oversubscribed I guess, so can't accept many near misses, unlike more lenient unis.

Edinburgh sounds great, I personally didn't consider the Scottish universities due to the extra year but in the grand scheme of things it's a small price to pay, I'm sure you'll do well - good luck!
I think the key is to focus on the positives - we've got into the courses we wanted and still at RG unis!


I guess we are in similar positions! We're not the only ones I know rejected from Durham, there's quite a few this year. I agree - there isn't anything wrong with aiming high. I've always worked really hard and sacrificed a lot for my academic achievements, so I aimed high with the expectation that it would pay off.

I'm sure you'll also do well. I'm kind of in a complicated place actually because something similar to the course I originally applied for (combined honours) is being offered to me by York. But I'm reevaluating and feeling like I just want to focus on Comp Sci so I have to choose.

Someone else on here(don't know how to tag from my phone) basically has my situation down on one of their threads and I keep checking to see if they have a response so I can address my own situation (how sad, lol).

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