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Internet and Pedeophiles

On ITV news recently they have been doing 'research' (:rolleyes: ) into the internet, young people and pedeophiles.
Some of it is really annoying me as the media always seem to scaremunger people when it comes to forums, chat rooms and young people.
For example, on this programme they were talking about Facebook and Myspace and how it can be dangerous because people put personal information on there. Fair enough I can understand what they are talking about and why they are worried about this but they fail to mension things like privacy settings that websites like this put up in order to avoid these types of things.
The media seem to be scaring an audience of adults, who lets face it, probably don't have much knowledge of the internet as this generation of children might have. I understand that there are pedeophiles out there, but I think they should be reassuring people that it is probably not as bad as people make out.
Parents just need to teach their kids to block strangers who are asking about webcams and sexual content and to explain to teenagers that it is not right to have a 'relationship' with someone you haven't met face to face online.

What do you think?

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I think scaremongering is partly a good idea, as it teaches people what to look out for and the potential danger. It's the same as those "don't walk on the tracks" posters you see at train stations. Or drink driving adverts, which can sometimes be quite graphic. Though of course you're right, it's going far too far. I've met people off the internet before and will continue to do so, and thus far I'm paedophile-free. :rolleyes: The same happened with WTC, the London bombings, Holly and Jessica, Maddy McCann... it'll never stop.

One problem is that the ITV staff have bugger all clue about the internet, just as parents do.
Reply 2
My mum's always going on about that sort of stuff. She seems convinced that practically every person on the internet is a paedophile in disguise and if you ever mention your surname, said paedophiles will turn up at your house and rape you.
Well as has been said before: awareness can only be a good thing. All it takes is a bit of common sense and you should be safe.

Maybe the lack of common sense in society is the problem that should be tackled...
Meliae
My mum's always going on about that sort of stuff. She seems convinced that practically every person on the internet is a paedophile in disguise and if you ever mention your surname, said paedophiles will turn up at your house and rape you.


:laugh:

Soooo...Meliae...what's your surname? Just, you know, curiosity. :p:
I think that it is going a bit far; awareness is one thing, but it's stupid to scare people when in actual fact a lot of social networking sites are really safe. MySpace, Facebook, Bebo etc all have measures to protect users from strangers and so it's ridiculous to put the idea into parents' heads that they are frequented by paedophiles looking to groom youngsters.
I wish people would relax and give me all their personal details. :biggrin: It's for, um, research.
Reply 5
Young people, indeed people generally, need to be informed about the dangers of the internet and sexual predators, absolutely. I use facebook but I'm careful not to include any info that might easily facilitate identity theft for example.

Having said that I think the media keep coming back to child abuse and child pornography for less than justified reasons. I'm old enough to remember the infamous Brass Eye episode "paedogeddon" which was a very biting (and funny) critique of how the news media had become salacious peddlers of hyped up child abuse and child pornography stories. Call my cynical, but it's an issue which (understandably) horrifies and captures the attention of parents, which means audience numbers. If you have kids then, statistically at least, you need to worry about motor cars far more than child abusers; being knocked down and killed or seriously injured is a much more likely tragedy in your child's life.
Oswy
I'm old enough to remember the infamous Brass Eye episode "paedogeddon" which was a very biting (and funny) critique of how the news media had become salacious peddlers of hyped up child abuse and child pornography stories.


One of the funniest things I have ever seen. :biggrin:
Reply 7
ITV like to pick relatively minor issues like paedophilia and inflate them into some kind of 'national crisis' or something. They need to get a grip. I actually cringe every time I see ITV news and their ridiculous stories.

Awareness is one thing, but ITV seem to make everyone hysterical with sensationalist stories backed up by dubious research and reporting techniques. And what was the deal with facebook? I can't believe they picked it out! Its one of the most restrictive sites on the web, and its hardly marketed towards little kiddies. Its populated overwhelmingly by students and adults, and it has a very friendly interface for handling security settings. ITV just gets worse by the year- no wonder their ratings are continuing to decline.
Reply 8
Did anyone see the thing on ITV news tonight where a girl was on msn and it said there would be a report sometime later on about it? The guy suggested they meet up and ITV were making this big thing out of it. What anyone who has ever actually used msn should notice is that if someone logs onto msn they have to add people before they can talk to them. Therefore the girl didn't just log on and get bombarded by requests from paedophiles to meet up, she had to either a)add them herself or b)accept their request. Therefore it is either her or ITV that are to blame for who she was talking to, not msn or the internet which already has more than enough safety checks to guard against this kind of thing.

Between ITV and the Daily Mail the internet could seem like some immoral paradise where by the second the young girls of the UK are being groomed for sex by 50 year old men on myspace/facebook/msn.
I think it was faceparty, not facebook [unless they're related]. But I agree with Beekeeper.
Reply 10
Beekeeper
ITV like to pick relatively minor issues like paedophilia and inflate them into some kind of 'national crisis' or something. They need to get a grip. I actually cringe every time I see ITV news and their ridiculous stories.

Awareness is one thing, but ITV seem to make everyone hysterical with sensationalist stories backed up by dubious research and reporting techniques. And what was the deal with facebook? I can't believe they picked it out! Its one of the most restrictive sites on the web, and its hardly marketed towards little kiddies. Its populated overwhelmingly by students and adults, and it has a very friendly interface for handling security settings. ITV just gets worse by the year- no wonder their ratings are continuing to decline.


indeed...they are quick to enter "OMFG" mode. but so are the other channels.

btw, is that PW Botha in your avatar? looks like him :biggrin:
Reply 11
TML
I think it was faceparty, not facebook [unless they're related]. But I agree with Beekeeper.

Nope, they were definatly going on about facebook because it showed the front of the website in one of the programmes:mad:

The MSN thing annoyed me too, although I think people can talk to you without you adding them. Someone posted a stupid message to me the other week without a request coming up for them to add me, but I automatically blocked them. This was a very rare occurance though!
Instead of scaring people, they should give tips about safe internet browsing such as blocking people who you don't know, setting your facebook/bebo/myspace profile to private so only you and those you know can see what you've put and never arrange to meet someone you have only just started chatting to, and even if you have been chatting for a long time, if kids or teens want to meet with them, bring a responsible adult with them.
Charlieee
Nope, they were definatly going on about facebook because it showed the front of the website in one of the programmes:mad:

The MSN thing annoyed me too, although I think people can talk to you without you adding them. Someone posted a stupid message to me the other week without a request coming up for them to add me, but I automatically blocked them. This was a very rare occurance though!
Instead of scaring people, they should give tips about safe internet browsing such as blocking people who you don't know, setting your facebook/bebo/myspace profile to private so only you and those you know can see what you've put and never arrange to meet someone you have only just started chatting to, and even if you have been chatting for a long time, if kids or teens want to meet with them, bring a responsible adult with them.

I'm not a fan of all these internet "social networking" things anyway. Yet I agree that ITV is a pile of sensational ****.
technik
btw, is that PW Botha in your avatar? looks like him :biggrin:


lol, are you kidding? It's Milton Friedman.
Reply 14
I think we will all be safer if we all refrain from watching ITV.
Reply 15
Oswy
If you have kids then, statistically at least, you need to worry about motor cars far more than child abusers; being knocked down and killed or seriously injured is a much more likely tragedy in your child's life.

It's all about the expected cost, though. It is true that children are at more risk of being injured on the roads, but the fact is that given the choice, most parents would much rather their kid got knocked down by a car and broke a couple of bones (no serious lasting damage, an increased waryness of the roads) than got abused (lifelong humiliation, psychological scarring, problems with trust and relationships etc.)
Reply 16
Worzo
It's all about the expected cost, though. It is true that children are at more risk of being injured on the roads, but the fact is that given the choice, most parents would much rather their kid got knocked down by a car and broke a couple of bones (no serious lasting damage, an increased waryness of the roads) than got abused (lifelong humiliation, psychological scarring, problems with trust and relationships etc.)


I understand that, but my emphasis is on the likelihood of one as against the other. My criticism is that while parents are hyped into high-anxiety about child molesters this obscures the much more likely harm of being hit by a car. Also, having spent a little time working for a company which assists head/spinal injury patients I'm aware that a child being hit by a car, should it survive, can suffer permanent psychological trauma, cognitive losses and physical disabilities. I'm not suggesting that the trauma is of the same kind, but it's not quite right to think that someone who has physically recovered from their broken bones easily gets back to their happy former self.
Reply 17
I don't think anything of it.
There's a common theme of people attacking the "Leaders", and a website that has...
what like, 128million users... it's bound to get at least some bad publicity. What annoys me is
that parents take it all in and don't learn about it for themselves. I think it's pretty stupid.
Reply 18
generalebriety
I think scaremongering is partly a good idea, as it teaches people what to look out for and the potential danger. It's the same as those "don't walk on the tracks" posters you see at train stations. Or drink driving adverts, which can sometimes be quite graphic. Though of course you're right, it's going far too far. I've met people off the internet before and will continue to do so, and thus far I'm paedophile-free. :rolleyes: The same happened with WTC, the London bombings, Holly and Jessica, Maddy McCann... it'll never stop.

One problem is that the ITV staff have bugger all clue about the internet, just as parents do.


I agree. I also agree when old people say "I blame television!" The american media is the route to all evil. I dont agree with you meeting people from the internet though, although im guessing your smart enough to know if you can trust em, even in a public place - never meet anyone mate.

They want to put a fear ans a sense of security in the internet as ITV is aware that alot of the internet has no control nor stability, expceptional sites like TSR even get trolls and lurkers. The media plays a massive game in everything luring the public into a false sense of security is ITVs aim - we are about to be awaken to a digital survillence monster - they will soon record everything:mad:
k77
I dont agree with you meeting people from the internet though, although im guessing your smart enough to know if you can trust em, even in a public place - never meet anyone mate.

Any reason for this? I see it as absolutely no different to meeting someone in a pub. :s-smilie: Sure, I'd never meet up with people in a dark alley at 3am. That's just ****ing silly. If I meet people it's generally in train stations and stuff, purely for convenience because I don't know where I'm going in other cities. Once I get there, and I've checked they're not 50 years old and they don't have a gun pointed at my head, I might as well have met them in a pub or something. I think it's perfectly safe, or at least as safe as meeting anyone ever is. Just the default things to check for make you as safe as anyone else.

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