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    Those Buddhist terrorists are at it again! Why did Merkel have to let so many of them in?
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    (Original post by L'absurde)
    The suspect was shot dead by police.

    "The suspected attacker reportedly made references to Allah before he was killed".

    "The attacker asked at least one person if they were Muslim".
    The only way to stop this terrorism is to destroy IS in Syria like they are being destroyed in Iraq. That means ignoring advice from Turkey and it means making an alliance with Assad, Russia and Iran.

    There are now no effective ground forces in Syria to fight IS other than the regime forces, Hezzbollah and Shia militias.
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    (Original post by Peroxidation)
    Those Buddhist terrorists are at it again! Why did Merkel have to let so many of them in?
    This jokes already been used multiple times in this thread already, Try something original buddy.

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    But yeh, organised religion serves no purpose in the 21st century. At which point are going to try and phase it out? We don't need any more religious honour killings or priests abusing little boys.
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    #ReligionOfPiecesOfMallShoppers
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    (Original post by IkeaLamp)
    when will you learn that Islam alone doesn't motivate people to do horrible things?
    Perhaps, but if we look at every case of Islamist terrorism, the perpetrators come from a vide variety of countries and backgrounds, social strata, levels of education and profession. Even their secondary motives vary.
    There is only one element common to all of them. Islam. A belief in the truth, infallibility and immutability of the Quran, and the perfection of the example of Muhammad.

    Also, when we isolate the secondary motive, we will usually find that there are other groups who have that in common, whether it is perceived persecution, resentment of the foreign policy of others, experience of conflict, or economic/social deprivation - who do not express their dissatisfaction through violence. It would appear that the single element which drives Muslims to violent jihad are the calls to violent jihad in the Quran and sunnah.

    It really isn't rocket science.
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    (Original post by IkeaLamp)
    attacking Islam is as dumb as attacking the computer monitors through which these sorts of extremist supporters find out about ISIS in the first place
    Are there passages in the monitor manual that can be readily interpreted as encouraging violence against those who oppose Islam?

    Are the monitors deliberately circumventing the "anti-extremism filters" installed on the PCs to which they are attached?

    Is the Quran, sunnah and classical tafsir only available through these monitors?
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    (Original post by IkeaLamp)
    the computer monitors tell them about ISIS, ISIS are the ones reaching out to angry Muslims telling them to stand up and kill innocents, the Quran isn't actively preaching people to kill civilians.

    Noble Verse 8:61 "But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace
    Ah, the old "innocents" gambit.
    When you read the Quran, sunnah and classical tafsir, it is pretty clear that it is easy to argue that "innocent" only applies to those who submit to Islam.

    Also, 8:58 & 62 state that if the enemy intends to break the treaty, then so can the Muslims.
    Now, this deserves looking at more closely. The Muslims and the enemy have a peace treaty, but the Muslims can break it and attack the enemy if they think that the enemy intends to break it!
    The Muslims do not need to be attacked to be able to rip up the treaty and attack the enemy. They just need to claim, "But we thought that you were thinking about breaking it. So we broke it first".
    Doesn't sound very good, does it?

    What's more, verse 8:39 commands Muslims to fight the polytheists until there is no more disbelief and all religion is for Allah. So kinda mixed messages in that chapter, but essentially, a lot of instructions to fight disbelievers.

    And bear in mind that later chapters (like sura 9) that talk about killing disbelievers unless they submit to Islam, will abrogate the earlier sura.
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    (Original post by IkeaLamp)
    If the problem is ambiguity in the Quran's message, the fault lies within the evil person who is choosing the hateful message over the peaceful message
    Why is the "problem" not with the cowardly person who is choosing the peaceful message over the message of Islamic conquest?

    It's almost like you are saying that parts of the Quran are wrong and should be ignored.
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    (Original post by IkeaLamp)
    That's not why they do it. They do it because they're evil people and they want to hurt as many people as they can.
    So it's just a coincidence that all Islamist terrorists are Muslims?
    Why do you think that so many of the other evil people of the world do not feel justified in committing mass murder or brutal killings to the same extent that those who just happen to be Muslims do?

    I bet that you'll be claiming that all their lives went to ****, or they had a sick relative next.
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    (Original post by L'absurde)
    Maybe Jewish? :dontknow:
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