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You think Donald Trump can win California, New York, Illinois, Oregon and Washington?

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Reply 1
There's no way he can win California
Reply 2
He'll lose all 5 states mentioned in the subject, it will be a landslide loss. I wish there was a viable Libertarian candidate as both Clinton and Trump are repugnant.
What a load of nonsense. "I can see lots of Trump/Pence campaign signs from my backyard, so Trump must be on his way to winning!"

:facepalm2:
I don't know why such a silly argument is so oft-repeated - Clinton's supporters are known for their lack of enthusiasm. Anybody (reasonable) who watched the primaries knows this, and this is likely to be even truer of the wider electorate, since they are faced with a choice between Trump and Clinton, as opposed to one between Clinton and Sanders (and therefore more likely to vote tactically). Fortunately for Clinton, it doesn't take much enthusiasm to put an X next to her name.
Reply 5
Nope, but he'll win Florida, Ohio, and Pennsylvania which will see him through
Original post by ftw93
Nope, but he'll win Florida, Ohio, and Pennsylvania which will see him through


How is he going to win Pennsylvania? He is trailing Clinton significantly in every PA poll. And he has been for a while.
Original post by ftw93
Nope, but he'll win Florida, Ohio, and Pennsylvania which will see him through


Based on what?

Ohio os neck and neck, but is is behind in Florida by 4pts and by even more on Penn.
Reply 8
Original post by 999tigger
Based on what?

Ohio os neck and neck, but is is behind in Florida by 4pts and by even more on Penn.


Trump is ahead by 20,000 returned early ballots in Florida, it's practically confirmed red at this point

Original post by Yellow 03
How is he going to win Pennsylvania? He is trailing Clinton significantly in every PA poll. And he has been for a while.

The polls are lying, Trump will flip PA
Original post by ftw93
Trump is ahead by 20,000 returned early ballots in Florida, it's practically confirmed red at this point


The polls are lying, Trump will flip PA


And where do you get this information from?
Original post by ftw93

The polls are lying, Trump will flip PA


lol
Reply 12
Original post by Yellow 03
lol

ahh yes, did you also believe the polls when they said Labour and Conservatives were neck and neck last year? Or when Remain would win? Or When Trump had a 1% chance of winning the Nominee?

Most polls are outdated and inaccurate, and choose to only poll certain types of voters to support their personal narrative.
Original post by ftw93
Nope, but he'll win Florida, Ohio, and Pennsylvania which will see him through


No, they won't, even if he did win them (and only Ohio of the three has any recent sign of leaning Trump's way). He'd still need to win North Carolina as well, which has been solidly Clinton in the polls for the past month.
Reply 14
Original post by anarchism101
No, they won't, even if he did win them (and only Ohio of the three has any recent sign of leaning Trump's way). He'd still need to win North Carolina as well, which has been solidly Clinton in the polls for the past month.

The Republicans are already bolted on to win Ohio and Florida, everybody who lives there knows this, the Dems have already pulled out of these states to concentrate elsewhere because they know they've lost them.

Btw, the Republicans are leading the early ballots in North Carolina, he's bolted on to win that one as well. (Dems usually outperform on early voting, the fact they're losing in these areas is a big indication they've lost the state)

The real battleground states are Colorado, Pennsylvania, Iowa, Virginia and Nevada. If Trump flips one of them he'll win.
Original post by ftw93
The Republicans are already bolted on to win Ohio and Florida, everybody who lives there knows this, the Dems have already pulled out of these states to concentrate elsewhere because they know they've lost them.
Citation?

Btw, the Republicans are leading the early ballots in North Carolina, he's bolted on to win that one as well. (Dems usually outperform on early voting, the fact they're losing in these areas is a big indication they've lost the state)
Nope, we'd be expecting the GOP to be doing better at this stage of early voting, as Republicans generally do better in the earlier mail-in early voting (which was what the Florida link you posted referred to), while Democrats do better in the in-person early voting which is only really getting going. In fact, the GOP lead among North Carolina mail-in voters was far narrower than in 2012, as with those who requested early ballots in Florida.


There are over 6 million votes cast in Florida, when you count the other voted then its down to 10,000. Nowhere near enough to say its red.
Original post by 999tigger
There are over 6 million votes cast in Florida, when you count the other voted then its down to 10,000. Nowhere near enough to say its red.


It won't quite knock it down to 10,000, since some simply won't vote. But that's beside the point that this is only absentee ballots, which Republicans generally have more of anyway. Indeed, in 2012 80,000 more Republicans than Democrats submitted absentee ballots in Florida - and Romney still lost Florida.
Original post by anarchism101
It won't quite knock it down to 10,000, since some simply won't vote. But that's beside the point that this is only absentee ballots, which Republicans generally have more of anyway. Indeed, in 2012 80,000 more Republicans than Democrats submitted absentee ballots in Florida - and Romney still lost Florida.



Yes I know its only absentee ballots, but thats what he was basing it on.
Thats the thing in here you are more often than not discussing with someone who is incapable of being objective and believes any bideo they cna find on youtube.

Yesterday someone was pedalling a poll that was Trump 71% and Clinton 19% claiming that was correct and everything else was a set up....
Reply 19
Original post by 999tigger
There are over 6 million votes cast in Florida, when you count the other voted then its down to 10,000. Nowhere near enough to say its red.

Trump has a comfortable lead among independents.

Original post by anarchism101
Citation?

Nope, we'd be expecting the GOP to be doing better at this stage of early voting, as Republicans generally do better in the earlier mail-in early voting (which was what the Florida link you posted referred to), while Democrats do better in the in-person early voting which is only really getting going. In fact, the GOP lead among North Carolina mail-in voters was far narrower than in 2012, as with those who requested early ballots in Florida.

Wrong, Dems always dominate mail-ins.

The polls are wrong, they're oversampling Democrats by up to 20%, people are underestimating Trump like they have been since the beginning. Trust me from people I know in several states there is a huge hype and momentum for Trump, he will be getting high numbers even in places like California.

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