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Why do threads like this act as such magnets for opinionated and ill-informed idiots?
Reply 41
Molseh
The SAS are a bunch of cowboys.

Really? I suppose you can say this because you have worked with them?

Just look at the Bravo Two Zero mission

I'm sorry but Bravo Two Zero is a poor example. A lot of it is balls, and Andy McNab is regarded as reckless within the SAS.

Need I mention the Embassy? Two got tangled in their ropes whilst abseilling and 1 bomb charged a room via a window, ON THE WRONG FLOOR!

Well after you have served in the CRW you can come back and tell us how easy it is :rolleyes:

When the Paras were there (time of the 3 para book) they were holed up in their FOB's dodging Mortars and RPG's and not daring to step foot outside their perimeter protected by the Sangars.

Would this be the same tour where, during the Taleban's summer offensive, Corporal Bryan Budd was posthumously awarded the VC in a firefight? But then again I suppose they were hiding inside the wire... Edited to say: Why the hell would you not try and dodge RPGs and Mortar fire?!

There is no question who is the most elite, the RM could on their own operate for months in a warzone, with all their specialisations and the Marines being able to do everything from being a Pilot to a Chef to Special Forces, to Signals.


Look, nobody is saying that the RM aren't some of the finest soldiers in our Armed Forces, and nobody is saying that the Paras are any finer. I'm afraid this isn't a competition between the RM and the Army...
ProStacker
Why do threads like this act as such magnets for opinionated and ill-informed idiots?


Oh I dunno, the way some of the posters are talking about it (not naming any names....Molseh) they must have got a good few tours in to be able to talk about it with such factual authority. Because surely no one would write stuff like that based on what they (most likely incorrectly) think SF life and operations are like, from reading endless action-packed paperbacks, scouring internet fansites and watching programmes like "SAS: Are You Tough Enough?" on repeat on National Geographic? Right?! Because that would just be silly...
Reply 43
Molseh
The SAS are a bunch of cowboys. If you want a real statistic, 90% of the SBS come from the Marines.

Until about 3 years ago you had to be a Royal Marine to join the SBS.

Molseh
Still not beleive me? Lets look at the present - Afghanistan.
When the Paras were there (time of the 3 para book) they were holed up in their FOB's dodging Mortars and RPG's and not daring to step foot outside their perimeter protected by the Sangars. Then at the end of the tour the Royal Marines came in and they shook things up, began patrolling day and night and pushed the Taliban back for up to 2 km from some FOBs and out of the area completely with others.

By that definition the Royal Anglian Regiment are the most elite
Reply 44
flugelr



By that definition the Royal Anglian Regiment are the most elite


Thank you! I was told the exact same thing by their Recruiting Officer.
Reply 45
frogit5
Thank you! I was told the exact same thing by their Recruiting Officer.

Ah yes. The Capt is a great bloke. He was one of my mate's platoon commanders in Afghanistan in 2007
Reply 46
flugelr
Ah yes. The Capt is a great bloke. He was one of my mate's platoon commanders in Afghanistan in 2007


Top man, he's changed posting now and his successor hasn't been in touch since, which is kind of annoying. And I don't seem to be able to contact him to arrange a FAM visit.
Reply 47
frogit5
Top man, he's changed posting now and his successor hasn't been in touch since, which is kind of annoying. And I don't seem to be able to contact him to arrange a FAM visit.

Do you mean Capt D or Capt T?

Capt T moved on a year or so ago and I believe Capt D is still the RCO...

I can PM you phone number, e-mail etc for him if you want
Reply 48
Just remeber what Army stands for guys!

Aren't Ready for Marines Yet
Tomo - you have an unhealthy interest in RMs. Are you a groupie? For a student you seem to worship them.
Reply 50
Tomo8281
Just remeber what Army stands for guys!

Aren't Ready for Marines Yet


:biggrin:
Reply 51
ProStacker
Tomo - you have an unhealthy interest in RMs. Are you a groupie? For a student you seem to worship them.


Nowt wrong with that.
Reply 52
ProStacker
Tomo - you have an unhealthy interest in RMs. Are you a groupie? For a student you seem to worship them.


I think you are confusing 'worship' with 'banter'. I am a student, doesnt mean I cant have a poke at army guys :wink:!
Id apply for the Royal Marines, they are the best of the best when it comes to Britain's conventional armed forces. Ive had the privilege of meeting a few and they are generally a bunch of extroadinarily capable individuals. To be an officer requires something else, you need to be truly exceptional.

Wherever the toughest fighting for British troops is, the RM will always be at the heart of it. The guys I knew had served on every continent in various wars and police actions. They'd each done a few tours in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Tomo8281
I think you are confusing 'worship' with 'banter'. I am a student, doesnt mean I cant have a poke at army guys :wink:!


Banter is the (often harsh, occasionally good-humoured) ribbing that goes on between equals. It usually involves someone denigrating an aspect of the others skills, capability etc and the resultant reply of a similar nature.

A student saying that the RM are better than the Army is just a bit silly and certainly isn't banter. It does, however, come across as an unhealthy adoration for those in green berets. Keep on ploughing this furrow if you so wish. :cool:
Reply 55
ProStacker
Banter is the (often harsh, occasionally good-humoured) ribbing that goes on between equals. It usually involves someone denigrating an aspect of the others skills, capability etc and the resultant reply of a similar nature.

A student saying that the RM are better than the Army is just a bit silly and certainly isn't banter. It does, however, come across as an unhealthy adoration for those in green berets. Keep on ploughing this furrow if you so wish. :cool:


You do know you can be a student and be in the RN at the same time right?
Reply 56
Captain_Sl0w
Id apply for the Royal Marines, they are the best of the best when it comes to Britain's conventional armed forces. Ive had the privilege of meeting a few and they are generally a bunch of extroadinarily capable individuals. To be an officer requires something else, you need to be truly exceptional.

Wherever the toughest fighting for British troops is, the RM will always be at the heart of it. The guys I knew had served on every continent in various wars and police actions. They'd each done a few tours in Iraq and Afghanistan.


:yep: I have serious respect for you if you apply as an officer! The basic RM tests are arduous enough, and for officers to complete them in less time... I can't even contemplate it. My dad always said RM training was the hardest thing he's ever done in his life, but nothing was a bigger confidence boost than the green beret.

I am a mere woman, so I can only take his word for it.
Reply 57
Tomo8281
You do know you can be a student and be in the RN at the same time right?



Not properly, no.


You wouldn't put them that way round if you were in the RN. Now, RNR, is different. An URNU is not proper, pretending it is only increases the dislike between in for real and those who are university cadets.
Reply 58
Drewski
Not properly, no.


You wouldn't put them that way round if you were in the RN. Now, RNR, is different. An URNU is not proper, pretending it is only increases the dislike between in for real and those who are university cadets.


So then, I can only play around and make one joke if I am fully in the RN?

Ok I'll come back in a year and make the same one joke, maybe you'll laugh a little then.

Jeeze, lighten up.
Reply 59
It was a joke? In a year's time it might be worth explaining that while you're at it. Hardly a comedian.



And no, you can play around and joke [well... ] all you want, but you do so from your position of wannabe, which is different.

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