[abdiz12]

A rather untainted report from when the UIC was in action.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNZxi...eature=related

[AminaJB]

Escape from the World's most Dangerous Place:
After 18 years away Samira is going back to her birthplace, Somalia.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/i/p00qgqr6/

[In2deep]

(Original post by AminaJB)
Escape from the World's most Dangerous Place:
After 18 years away Samira is going back to her birthplace, Somalia.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/i/p00qgqr6/

How can any Somali connect with her? Can't bring myself to watch it, too cringeworthy..

[PrettyLittleLiars]

(Original post by In2deep)
How can any Somali connect with her? Can't bring myself to watch it, too cringeworthy..

Lol, may I ask why? I don't know much about what she does. I only read about her on the metro and then I even read all of it.

[The Cornerstone]

(Original post by AminaJB)
Escape from the World's most Dangerous Place:
After 18 years away Samira is going back to her birthplace, Somalia.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/i/p00qgqr6/

Typical BBC 3 documentary crap, send in a clueless teenager to a third world country and turn it into a drama while superficially touching upon the issues in those countries.

[AminaJB]

(Original post by The Cornerstone)
Typical BBC 3 documentary crap, send in a clueless teenager to a third world country and turn it into a drama while superficially touching upon the issues in those countries.

I agree, she was pretty naive and I thought the documentary was very biased and only portrayed the negative points about Somalia and typically trying to stereotype Somalis. I was very disappointed with this show but I shouldn't have expected any better from the bbc

[Maple]

(Original post by AminaJB)
I agree, she was pretty naive and I thought the documentary was very biased and only portrayed the negative points about Somalia and typically trying to stereotype Somalis. I was very disappointed with this show but I shouldn't have expected any better from the bbc

Its not the only BBC documentary with a largely negative depiction of Somalia. Check this out:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...orn_of_Africa/
The only redeeming thing about this is that it shows not only the struggle but what some people are doing to help their country.

[In2deep]

(Original post by Maple)
Its not the only BBC documentary with a largely negative depiction of Somalia. Check this out:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode...orn_of_Africa/
The only redeeming thing about this is that it shows not only the struggle but what some people are doing to help their country.

What is the alternative? Have you been to Somalia recently, the place is overwhelmingly negative, it is the sad truth we must face.

[zubz91]

oorya abdi

[In2deep]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-18117255

What a weird article

(Original post by zubz91)
oorya abdi

Warya*

And only 90% are called Abdi

[The Cornerstone]

(Original post by In2deep)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-18117255

What a weird article

Peak when a Somali owning a Bentley is newsworthy

Spoiler:

Show

Surprising but still

[In2deep]

(Original post by The Cornerstone)
Peak when a Somali owning a Bentley is newsworthy

Spoiler:

Show

Surprising but still

There are loads of dodgy Somali millionaires who took advantage when the regime fell. They're smart though, they keep investing in relatively local regions to avoid limelight.

The fact that Somalia is now the 2nd biggest importer of goods from Dubai is quiet interesting though

[The Cornerstone]

(Original post by In2deep)
There are loads of dodgy Somali millionaires who took advantage when the regime fell. They're smart though, they keep investing in relatively local regions to avoid limelight.

The fact that Somalia is now the 2nd biggest importer of goods from Dubai is quiet interesting though

Speaking of interesting Somali things, it seems our history have somehow influenced china in some small way

[In2deep]

(Original post by The Cornerstone)
Speaking of interesting Somali things, it seems our history have somehow influenced china in some small way

Just had the most interesting convo with my mum. I was watching some Somali channel and some spinster was equating the Somalia/Somaliland situation with the Pakistan/Bangladesh situation, some "facts" were clearly fabricated.

I watched in amazement as no one held him accountable to his lies because they probably had no idea what he was talking about so I asked my mum "where are all the scholars and professors, how is the political debate being lead by laymen, some of whom are illiterate?"

She replied "do you think that those who learned about the matters of this world are immune to tribalism when our Shuyookh are as divided by tribalism as the people on the road?

Makes you think man, how come the huge numbers of Islamic scholars from all over Somalia don't unite and lead the people, what are they doing? Just look at the gatherings held by the leaders of these divisive ideologies, every single one (Somaliland, Puntland and the numerous amount of "states") are opened by a "sheikh" reeading a few verses from the Qur'an.

[The Cornerstone]

(Original post by In2deep)
Just had the most interesting convo with my mum. I was watching some Somali channel and some spinster was equating the Somalia/Somaliland situation with the Pakistan/Bangladesh situation, some "facts" were clearly fabricated.

I watched in amazement as no one held him accountable to his lies because they probably had no idea what he was talking about so I asked my mum "where are all the scholars and professors, how is the political debate being lead by laymen, some of whom are illiterate?"

She replied "do you think that those who learned about the matters of this world are immune to tribalism when our Shuyookh are as divided by tribalism as the people on the road?

Makes you think man, how come the huge numbers of Islamic scholars from all over Somalia don't unite and lead the people, what are they doing? Just look at the gatherings held by the leaders of these divisive ideologies, every single one (Somaliland, Puntland and the numerous amount of "states") are opened by a "sheikh" reeading a few verses from the Qur'an.

Ngl, I've slightly given up on finding or talking about this whole Somalia/Somaliland/Puntland/whatever-land-you-wanna-claim-and-call-it-something-land thing (I have now adopted a "whatever will be, will be" mindset) because information about those things are so biased and corrupted on both sides that you can only side on the one you identify the most with. The people arguing are also the same as the argue on their side, throwing whatever info no matter how accurate or inaccurate it is without ever listening to the other person (just check Somali forums and you'll see the epitome of this ).

I guess this links back to your question as to why sheikhs are not doing anything. It's because they're also Somalis belonging to a tribe and now are more attached to their tribe or state more than anything.

As for me, I admit I used to be very pro-Somaliland and still am to some extent but differently in the sense that I will appreciate and be proud of it's achievements and the fact it got it's act together when nobody did but that's it. If I see something is wrong then I'll admit is wrong and I'm still undecided about it's recognition.

I think what really sums up my feelings about this whole thing is when a couple of days ago, my mum was on the phone complaining about my brother going to celebrate the anniversary of Somaliland's independence; at that time I thought to myself "what on earth is the point of going to small party about the anniversary of a country that is not even recognised yet just a couple of miles from us, there're thousands of our supposed compatriots starving and running scared and we're not willing to do more than what we're doing now because they're in the south", I think that really hit it home for me.

Sorry for the waffle

[zubz91]

(Original post by In2deep)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-18117255

What a weird article




Warya*

And only 90% are called Abdi

oh

a fail then and 90 % are a majority though lol

[In2deep]

(Original post by zubz91)
oh

a fail then and 90 % are a majority though lol

"Abdi" is just a shortened version of Abdallah, Abdirahman, Abdikareem etc so they don't all have the same name

Also, I can tell you that a significant amount are also called Ahmed/Mohammed/Mahmoud while another significant amount are named after the other Prophets such as Zakariyah, Yahya, Haarun etc.

The Abdi thing is just exaggeration

[zubz91]

(Original post by In2deep)
"Abdi" is just a shortened version of Abdallah, Abdirahman, Abdikareem etc so they don't all have the same name

Also, I can tell you that a significant amount are also called Ahmed/Mohammed/Mahmoud while another significant amount are named after the other Prophets such as Zakariyah, Yahya, Haarun etc.

The Abdi thing is just exaggeration

Very interesting i shall do a survey

lol nah serious thanks for the info

[Maple]

(Original post by In2deep)
What is the alternative? Have you been to Somalia recently, the place is overwhelmingly negative, it is the sad truth we must face.

I suppose you've got a point but its still very sad to see so much suffering at the hands of Somalis - to make matters worse. I'll be going there this summer, inshallah before uni to take part in a voluntary scheme that I still don't know all the details for. So hopefully I can actually see things for myself rather than watch, read and hear about them.

[In2deep]

(Original post by Maple)
I suppose you've got a point but its still very sad to see so much suffering at the hands of Somalis - to make matters worse. I'll be going there this summer, inshallah before uni to take part in a voluntary scheme that I still don't know all the details for. So hopefully I can actually see things for myself rather than watch, read and hear about them.

The WSSP thing?