[Johnni]

anyone else think (can't believe i am saying this lol) but think it would better to have a natural holding midfield player like Mascherano instead of Alonso in CM next to Gerrard.
I heard a comment during the Derby game that clicked with me. As Alonso is not naturally a holding player Gerrard tends to sit back more but with Sissoko or Mascherano he goes forward more often which is why he recent goals scored tally the past 10 games is exfellant i think as Alonso has been out for a while.
Personally i would prefer Rafa to play the same formation as in Valencia with 2 holding midfielders and a playmaker behind a sole striker.

[Laevis]

Using Masch or Momo certainly has given Gerrard more license to roam around the pitch and does seem to have rejuvenated him. You're right, it's no coincidence that Gerrard's goal tally has soared since Alonso's injury. However, i think that Alonso adds a lot more balance to the team. We just look more 'right' and i feel more comfortable when we have Alonso there. He hasn't been at his best for a while, but if he can get close to his best again, then we'll be in a great position.

I don't think it'll be long before we see Rafa play Gerrard on the right again, with Alonso and Masch in the middle and Kewell on the left. He'll use that formation for the big games i think, particularly away. It's what i expect/want to see us play against Inter.

[kpg]

(Original post by sarforaz)
Liverpool snap up teenager Cooper
Gifted youngster Alex Cooper was a target for several clubs

Liverpool have signed Ross County's highly-rated teenager Alex Cooper in a £100,000 deal.

The 16-year-old winger, who has won caps for Scotland at junior level and was a target for Chelsea, is the son of former Aberdeen star Neale Cooper.

Cooper has signed a contract with the Anfield club until 2011.

His father Neale, said: "He could have gone to one or two other clubs but he just loved the way he was treated by Liverpool when he was there."


Geez how big is our youth now?

If you throw enough %%%%%%%% on the wall, some will eventually stick.

It's the only way with the lack of local talent coming through

[Johnni]

I totally agree Laevis, it's weighing up the good points against the bad points. even tho8ugh Alonso had just come back he was spraying balls all over the pitch against Derby. i hope Rafa does put Gerrard on the right again in the future, although i think Gerrard feels it's not his best position he might now believe he wil get more freedom on the right.
He won the PFA player award when he played most of the season on the right, Rafa should tattoo that on his arm lol so Gerrard never complains to him.

[Nissay]

to be fair i haven't noticed Gerrard going forward much when Momo's around. Gerrard doesn't seem to trust him much, i remember a game where Momo was so shocking with his passing that Gerrard dropped really deep and sort of covered for Momo.

i agree Laevis, i think the best place for Gerrard would be a free role for him on the right, with Alonso and Masch/Sissoko in the middle.

[izaldo]

Just done the maths and have worked out I've spent £750 gross watching the Redmen this calendar year. To scared to work out the net figure!

[izaldo]

(Original post by Nissay)
to be fair i haven't noticed Gerrard going forward much when Momo's around. Gerrard doesn't seem to trust him much, i remember a game where Momo was so shocking with his passing that Gerrard dropped really deep and sort of covered for Momo.

i agree Laevis, i think the best place for Gerrard would be a free role for him on the right, with Alonso and Masch/Sissoko in the middle.

That is truth.

[Laevis]

Liverpool's Goals:

Fernando Torres-15 at an average of 0.68 per game.
Steven Gerrard-12 at an average of 0.48 per game.
Dirk Kuyt-7 at an average of 0.35 per game.
Yossi Benayoun-6 at an average of 0.29 per game.
Ryan Babel-6
Andriy Voronin- 4
Peter Crouch-4

[Zerforax]

...................Torres....... .......
Kewell.......................... Babel......
........................Gerrard. ...........
.............Alonso............. ........
....................Masch....... ........
Riise....Carra....Agger....Arbel oa..
...............Reina..........

How about that?
With the front 4 all be able to run and interchange whenever

[Laevis]

Looks good, but i'd prefer Arbeloa on the left and Finnan on the right.

Izaldo, that's some big spending, lad. I'd never have the %%%%%%%%ing money.

[Zerforax]

(Original post by Laevis)
Looks good, but i'd prefer Arbeloa on the left and Finnan on the right.

Izaldo, that's some big spending, lad. I'd never have the %%%%%%%%ing money.

Well, Arbeloa looks good on either side, but he's naturally right footed and IMO he's better than Finnan.. esp going forward!
Finnan tends to stay back (even when going forward) and puts in a cross whereas Arbeloa has the confidence to go further with the ball or cross

I like the idea of having a more fluid attack...
You can either go
4-5-1
..............Torres.....
Kewell Alonso Gerrard Masch Babel
or;
........Torres..Babel....
Kewell Alonso Masch Gerrard
or;
..........Torres.......
Kewell Gerrard Babel
......Alonso Masch...
or;
.........Torres...
..............Gerrard....
Kewell Alonso Masch Babel
etc etc
Can sub either Kewell/Babel for Yossi too

[izaldo]

(Original post by Laevis)
Looks good, but i'd prefer Arbeloa on the left and Finnan on the right.

Izaldo, that's some big spending, lad. I'd never have the %%%%%%%%ing money.

Thats just on tickets, Its probably closer to one and a half grand if you factor in travel, food and bevarage costs. I'm genetically programmed to want a Meat and Potato pie at half time, for example! And the fact that one of those matches was overseas.

Jack's will eclipse mine no doubt cuz he went Athens!

[DontBuyTheSun]

(Original post by izaldo)
Just done the maths and have worked out I've spent £750 gross watching the Redmen this calendar year. To scared to work out the net figure!

I spent that on flights for 1 game

Thats still a healthy figure though, considering you lived outside of Liverpool before september.

[kpg]

750 just on tickets? Are you sure? If you take an average of £30 a ticket, probably on the low side, that's 25 games.

You've probably spent more !

[izaldo]

(Original post by DontBuyTheSun)
I spent that on flights for 1 %%%%%%%%ing game

The game me and my mates refer to as 'The Exhibition'

[izaldo]

(Original post by kpg)
750 just on tickets? Are you sure? If you take an average of £30 a ticket, probably on the low side, that's 25 games.

You've probably spent more !

I've been 22 matches this year. Its accurate to the nearest fiver. A few games were cheap because i bought A/C and one was free! (Shef Utd) Chelsea CL Semi i paid 80 quid for which emptied my account.

Loads of games I sort spares on the day of the game etc, because i'm a lowly fancard holder!

[DontBuyTheSun]

Im trying to work out my spends now...

Last season was...

19 league games - £600
CL Games (7 games at 32 +£54 final ticket) - 278
Domestic cup games - (3 games at 32) - 96
Away games - (5 at avg of 30) - 150

%%%%%%%% that.

That doesnt include spends for any game, or flights to athens.

[Nissay]

(Original post by sarforaz)
Well, Arbeloa looks good on either side, but he's naturally right footed and IMO he's better than Finnan.. esp going forward!
Finnan tends to stay back (even when going forward) and puts in a cross whereas Arbeloa has the confidence to go further with the ball or cross

I like the idea of having a more fluid attack...
You can either go
4-5-1
..............Torres.....
Kewell Alonso Gerrard Masch Babel
or;
........Torres..Babel....
Kewell Alonso Masch Gerrard
or;
..........Torres.......
Kewell Gerrard Babel
......Alonso Masch...
or;
.........Torres...
..............Gerrard....
Kewell Alonso Masch Babel
etc etc
Can sub either Kewell/Babel for Yossi too

i like that. so fluid and can switch around really easily.

god, lots of money spent mum wouldn't let me apply to Liverpool unis for that reason, i'll probably be flushing money down that way.

[kpg]

(Original post by izaldo)
I've been 22 matches this year. Its accurate to the nearest fiver. A few games were cheap because i bought A/C and one was free! (Shef Utd) Chelsea CL Semi i paid 80 quid for which emptied my account.

Loads of games I sort spares on the day of the game etc, because i'm a lowly fancard holder!

Oh I thought you were on PTS, fair enough then.

80 notes for Chelsea??

[izaldo]

(Original post by Nissay)
i like that. so fluid and can switch around really easily.

god, lots of money spent mum wouldn't let me apply to Liverpool unis for that reason, i'll probably be flushing money down that way.

Two Words.

Edge Hill