Sensible debate over custom essay sites...

"Custom essay sites" = paying someone else to do your work; that counts towards YOUR degree etc.

Not cool.

Reply 3

OP

OK,
(I'm not looking to provoke you with this, but...) How do you think that they differ from, let's say, a textbook full of critical essays?

Reply 4

OP

But whether we like it or not, these sites will always be around. Do you not think it would be better to regulate the industry and embrace it as a new medium?

Reply 5

Hylean

UKEssayscom

OK,
(I'm not looking to provoke you with this, but...) How do you think that they differ from, let's say, a textbook full of critical essays?

they differ quite a lot. you write essays for people who are not willing to do the work, to give them good marks so that they can get a better grade when they do not deserve it and could potentially lower someone else's grade. textbooks with critical essays are used for support of an idea, to help stimulate thought and to show you what has been written before. no one is going to come along and use tolkien's essay on Beowulf just because it was written before. they may quote it, but it will not be the essay they hand in.

should we embrace it as a new medium? no. it's cheating and that's all it is, i'm sorry. what's the difference between what you do and someone taking cheat notes into an exam? in the end, the grade wasn't deserved and it's not their work.

Reply 6

rottcodd

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I like how you say you're not advertising when your username is the bloody website of the place you presumably work for.

Reply 7

OP

Hi Hylean,

What do you suggest then? A few people in the press have mentioned scrapping courswork altogether, is this something that you support?

Personally, again without wanting to provoke, I think that this industry needs regulation, but that with the correct management, it could become something great.

?

Reply 8

UKEssayscom

But whether we like it or not, these sites will always be around. Do you not think it would be better to regulate the industry and embrace it as a new medium?

Absolutely not! Using these essays towards a degree (I know I'm being specific) is wrong. It would turn "education" into a case of who has the most money to pay for the best people to do thier work for them!

Reply 9

OP

So what do you suggest?

Reply 10

UKEssayscom

Hi Hylean,

What do you suggest then? A few people in the press have mentioned scrapping courswork altogether, is this something that you support?

Personally, again without wanting to provoke, I think that this industry needs regulation, but that with the correct management, it could become something great.

?

HOW?

Reply 11

Hylean

UKEssayscom

Hi Hylean,

What do you suggest then? A few people in the press have mentioned scrapping courswork altogether, is this something that you support?

Personally, again without wanting to provoke, I think that this industry needs regulation, but that with the correct management, it could become something great.

?

i think the "industry" as you call it should be shut down. coursework is a vital part to the learning process and helps foster independent thought. this is something your "industry" does not encourage and, in fact, hinders quite significantly. furthermore, for those wishing to carry on a career in academia, your "industry" can do nothing. if they use your website, they will not have developed the right key skills to be able to do an MA or a PHD.

in my opinion, a 3rd with all the work done by that person is worth more than a 1st achieved using your lot.

Reply 12

UKEssayscom

So what do you suggest?

My suggestion is that this is an industry that needs to be curbed rather than "encouraged with proper management".

Give me one example of someone who could buy an essay with a clean conscience?

Reply 13

Nix!

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UKEssayscom

OK,
(I'm not looking to provoke you with this, but...) How do you think that they differ from, let's say, a textbook full of critical essays?

Because the authors of said essays are usually fully cited within said textbooks and these textbooks are in turn fully cited within assignments.

The difference is, that textbooks have academic honesty, whereas these essays do not. It is paying someone else to do your work for you, which you pass off as your own -- plagiarism in its essence.

If you truly believe that these essays should be embraced as a new medium, then you should agree that they should be recorded to a database to check for such dishonesty. Using the essays as further literature is one thing, passing them off as your own piece of work is something completely different.

In doing what you do, you are undermining and devaluing many qualifications.

Reply 14

=nuke=

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I think that if somebody has to go to a site to get 'inspiration' for their essay when they've already been given the information they need through lessons or lectures, they shouldn't be doing a A Levels or a degree in the first place.

Reply 15

samba

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I'm all for regulating it and making it transparent. I don't care if morons get 1st's by cheating. We weed them out at interview pretty easily as complete morons anyway.

Reply 16

Thud

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How about you pay me to write my post?

This is unsolicited market research. Goodbye.

Reply 17

OP

Well for a start, if each company had to be registered (like us) then that would help squeeze out the dark side of the industry.

Also, anti-plagiarism software such as TurnItIn should be monitored more closely (they're facing current legal battles over intellectual property rights infringement) and there should be a non-profit software created...

Reply 18

UKEssayscom

Well for a start, if each company had to be registered (like us) then that would help squeeze out the dark side of the industry.

Also, anti-plagiarism software such as TurnItIn should be monitored more closely (they're facing current legal battles over intellectual property rights infringement) and there should be a non-profit software created...

Tell me the difference between the "dark side" and yourself. As a so called reputable company ¬_¬

Reply 19

Hylean