[goldenGAZE]

hey
recently all my friends have been hacking into t mobile to allow them to have unlimited text (for free!) they do this by changing some settings on the phone.
I was just wondering whether this is dangerous as in would my sim card be blocked if T mobile found out
also how would T mobile find out?

[PieMaster]

They'd find out because everything you send is logged by thier systems. They won't block you, they'd just bill you for the cost plus an admin fee more than likely.

[Hopping Mad Kangaroo]

(Original post by PieMaster)
They'd find out because everything you send is logged by thier systems. They won't block you, they'd just bill you for the cost plus an admin fee more than likely.

If you are on Pay as you Go they cant touch your bank account.

[Ethereal]

(Original post by Hopping Mad Kangaroo)
If you are on Pay as you Go they cant touch your bank account.

No, but they can report you to the Police for criminal investigation and also instigat civil recovery against you.

[PieMaster]

(Original post by Hopping Mad Kangaroo)
If you are on Pay as you Go they cant touch your bank account.

They can still send an invoice to your registered address demanding payment within so many days though.

[Hopping Mad Kangaroo]

(Original post by Ethereal)
No, but they can report you to the Police for criminal investigation and also instigat civil recovery against you.

The case would get thrown out, unless the person accused actually confessed to it. Its way too difficult to prove.

[Hopping Mad Kangaroo]

(Original post by PieMaster)
They can still send an invoice to your registered address demanding payment within so many days though.

Assuming they have it, and they can show the phone is first-hand.

[Clubber Lang]

they would probably just take your credit next time you top up if it was possible to 'hack' them.

[Ethereal]

(Original post by Hopping Mad Kangaroo)
The case would get thrown out, unless the person accused actually confessed to it. Its way too difficult to prove.

Is that in your legally qualified opinion?

[Hopping Mad Kangaroo]

(Original post by Clubber Lang)
they would probably just take your credit next time you top up if it was possible to 'hack' them.

Needless to say, dont top up if ur going to do the hack.

[Hopping Mad Kangaroo]

(Original post by Ethereal)
Is that in your legally qualified opinion?

Technologically qualified. Its a soft hack from what I understand, all you have to claim is T-mobile remotely changed the software etc. Prove otherwise.

[Ethereal]

(Original post by Hopping Mad Kangaroo)
Technologically qualified. Its a soft hack from what I understand, all you have to claim is T-mobile remotely changed the software etc. Prove otherwise.

They will have records etc showing they didn't.

[Hopping Mad Kangaroo]

(Original post by Ethereal)
They will have records etc showing they didn't.

Records that could not be edited, if they exist at all?

[Mos Def]

I've been doing it, my sim'll probably get blocked soon, damn.

[Ethereal]

(Original post by Hopping Mad Kangaroo)
Records that could not be edited, if they exist at all?

First rule of business - always have an audit trail.

[Hopping Mad Kangaroo]

(Original post by Mos Def)
I've been doing it, my sim'll probably get blocked soon, damn.

I hope you are using a cheap phone with it, they could be nasty and block the actual hardware as well. Though I doubt you will get caught. How exactly do you do the hack btw, i havent seen the details of it...

[JKLJKL]

surely as it was mistake o the company, then said company would allow it and cover it up as their mistake.

in the pst when these sort of things have happened, the companies have just swollowed their problems and mistakes and stopped it

[Mos Def]

(Original post by Hopping Mad Kangaroo)
I hope you are using a cheap phone with it, they could be nasty and block the actual hardware as well. Though I doubt you will get caught. How exactly do you do the hack btw, i havent seen the details of it...

No it is impossible for the network provider to block the phone, the phone and sim are stand alone.

[Hopping Mad Kangaroo]

(Original post by Ethereal)
First rule of business - always have an audit trail.

As you well know, audits cannot be always trusted, especially in this case. Its one word against another, nothing else. Anyway, you have to have an address to send a court summons to, and prove that the person who bought the phone lives there. Another thing that is very difficult to prove on a pay as you go phone.

[Hopping Mad Kangaroo]

(Original post by Mos Def)
No it is impossible for the network provider to block the phone, the phone and sim are stand alone.

Phones have their own numbers hardwired into them, pretty much like a mac address on a computer. These numbers are separate the sim.