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Reply 180
Mavoury gets points for enthusiasm. :wink:

There's loads of Milton-based stuff going on at the moment, actually, 'cause it's his 400th Birthday. He's dead old. And dead.
Really funky lectures and displays and stuff. :smile:

Read at least some of the Divine Comedy -- it's well worth it, as is as important as Homer & Virgil to English lit. More so, sometimes.
Reply 181
epitome
Mavoury gets points for enthusiasm. :wink:

There's loads of Milton-based stuff going on at the moment, actually, 'cause it's his 400th Birthday. He's dead old. And dead.
Really funky lectures and displays and stuff. :smile:

Read at least some of the Divine Comedy -- it's well worth it, as is as important as Homer & Virgil to English lit. More so, sometimes.


:wink:

I keep meaning to go to the Milton exhibition in the UL and never quite managing. Which is stupid seeing it's 30 seconds away from me. :s-smilie:
Reply 182
Maartje recommends the one in Christ's library, too -- I've not seen it yet.

And Dante is more important than the Latin/Greek texts, sometimes. So quit crossing things out, biatch! :p:
Reply 183
epitome
Maartje recommends the one in Christ's library, too -- I've not seen it yet.

And Dante is more important than the Latin/Greek texts, sometimes. So quit crossing things out, biatch! :p:


Shan't. :biggrin: Nyer. :p:

I keep meaning to go to that one, too. So much to do, so little time! The White Devil was pretty good last night, though. :smile:

[offtopic] I thought it would amuse you to know that at Emma on Thursday some Access officer mistook me for you. Made me laugh, anyway! [/offtopic]
And Dante I think, but I'm not exactly well placed to comment because I got a bit bored halfway through Paradise Lost and gave up but the Divine Comedy has a good plot. I think I've just committed academic suicide with that comment


Haha! no, I agree, I got bored around book V of PL (I don't think I'm worthy of Milton yet!) but I've read the Divine Comedy all the way through now...it's sexcellent. Probably a result of the fact it's a fairly recent translation. I tried to write down all the words I'd have to look up later while I was reading Milton, and it ran to several pages before I stopped. The ones I looked up I don't remember. This could have something to do with it.

My aim in life at the moment is to one day read Paradise Lost and understand every word!
Reply 185
Ha, good luck with that, Simian!
Fowler's big edition is well worth the cost -- fantastic footnotes, significantly aiding understanding (and slowing reading...)

Lidka, who was it at Emma?! You're much smaller than me, and your hair is 'curly' rather than 'messy'! How funny. I'm not even an access officer...:rolleyes:
Reply 186
epitome
Ha, good luck with that, Simian!
Fowler's big edition is well worth the cost -- fantastic footnotes, significantly aiding understanding (and slowing reading...)

Lidka, who was it at Emma?! You're much smaller than me, and your hair is 'curly' rather than 'messy'! How funny. I'm not even an access officer...:rolleyes:


No idea, some bloke with dark hair? He may not have been an Officer, but he looked Official and Access-y. I'm not much smaller than you. :p: P'raps it was the glasses!
Reply 187
You do have a knack for accurate and pinpoint description, Lidia...:rolleyes:
Reply 188
epitome
You do have a knack for accurate and pinpoint description, Lidia...:rolleyes:


Well, there was nothing particularly distinctive about him! He was just bloke-ish and dark-ish. :biggrin:

And now I'm hopping over to Newnham to squabble with you in person. Yay. :biggrin:
Reply 189
im definitely sure i'll apply to university to read English, and (since you only really get to try the whole university game once) i really ought to give somewhere like Cambridge a go. having for a few different reasons decided on Cambridge and not Oxford, i now leave it to your collective opinions...

which colleges are good to read english at? are some substantially worse than others?

ideally i'd like to apply to one that is good for english and (since im going to try for a choral scholarship - i do like setting tough challenges for myself, it seems) with a good choir but not TOO good...

any ideas?
Reply 190
With that description (wanting good choirs and great reputation for English), I'd go for Clare. (And no, I'm not at Clare, so this isn't just a "my college is best" thing!). Clare has an awesome choir, and its English stuff is great. Ask Lidka, who's in her 1st yr doing English there at the moment.

Pembroke also has a pretty good (and very active) choir, and has also been very impressive English-wise.

I wouldn't usually be quite so explicit about college choices, because it's a bit of a dodgy thing to do, but these two colleges do stand out in both the areas you mention.
HOWEVER, it is almost impossible to know how 'good' the education is in different subjects at different colleges -- what might seem obvious isn't! Furthermore, the teaching is mostly university-based (and organised by a mixture of college & university), so people from different colleges get the same supervisors in many cases. It's not of absolute importance, therefore, that you pick a 'correct' college -- they ALL have positives and negatives. What with the slightly bonkers nature of Choral Scholarships (getting shifted around the different colleges during application, etc.), and the academic Pooling system, it would be daft to get too attached to one college or another. And they will all offer you a fantastic education!

Edit: Appalling typing!
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Reply 191
NJHL
im definitely sure i'll apply to university to read English, and (since you only really get to try the whole university game once) i really ought to give somewhere like Cambridge a go. having for a few different reasons decided on Cambridge and not Oxford, i now leave it to your collective opinions...

which colleges are good to read english at? are some substantially worse than others?

ideally i'd like to apply to one that is good for english and (since im going to try for a choral scholarship - i do like setting tough challenges for myself, it seems) with a good choir but not TOO good...

any ideas?


You like Herbert. Good start. :biggrin:

As epitome said, Clare fits your description of a preferred college. If you want to know how the course is structured at Clare, read this here. Anything extra you want to know - what it's actually like to study here, college life, etc. - feel free to PM me.
Reply 192
Thanks epitome and Lidka for the guidance. now ive got to go about getting those grades...
Talking of Milton...

http://www.christs.cam.ac.uk/darknessvisible/

is a resource we, the English students of Christ's, made for the study of Milton. It's aimed mostly at sixth-formers but I think it's generally quite useful, most of the people writing are quite specialised on what they're writing on.

Simian - congrats on getting in to Christ's. I won't be here when you get here, but it's a fantastic college to study English at. Academic support is phenomenal and the three fellows are all rather adored... Plus the Milton 400 stuff is fun.
Reply 194
*loves Christ's*

If I didn't love my college as much as I do, I would happily go to Christ's instead. :smile:
Hmmm..Borrowing a leaf from NJHL's book, does anyone have ideas for a college that's good for English (a bit of a silly thing to say because they're all excellent), not TOO competitive, very into Drama and pretty liberal?

I know, I'm not being specific at all :wink:
Reply 196
No.

The only reason I responded to NJHL is because the choir question does sometimes matter.

English is offered in every college; "competitive" is what you make of it, the drama scene is more lively on a university-scale (though every college has a drama society of sorts, and if it's not vibrant enough for you, take it over and make it awesome -- that's how things tend to work here); and "liberal" is a shifty term.

Hmmm, I see, though, that your location is listed as Kenya...this is probably going to make visiting difficult! If you do have a chance to visit, though, that's the best way to choose a college. :smile: Essentially, however, the college choice is unimportant -- they all have massive positives and some negatives, but pretty much everyone ends up loving their college. Similarly, it is possible to get the highest and lowest marks at every college.
All I can suggest is that you browse through some of the websites, and see what you think. A course like English, you're going to get pretty good provision wherever you go! Of course, I'd recommends Newnham...we're very easy-going, have a funky experimental drama scene, and English rocks (it's not one of the uber-competitive colleges, but emphasis is on enjoying what we do). But...I'm biased. :wink: :biggrin:
epitome
No.

The only reason I responded to NJHL is because the choir question does sometimes matter.

English is offered in every college; "competitive" is what you make of it, the drama scene is more lively on a university-scale (though every college has a drama society of sorts, and if it's not vibrant enough for you, take it over and make it awesome -- that's how things tend to work here); and "liberal" is a shifty term.

Hmmm, I see, though, that your location is listed as Kenya...this is probably going to make visiting difficult! If you do have a chance to visit, though, that's the best way to choose a college. :smile: Essentially, however, the college choice is unimportant -- they all have massive positives and some negatives, but pretty much everyone ends up loving their college. Similarly, it is possible to get the highest and lowest marks at every college.
All I can suggest is that you browse through some of the websites, and see what you think. A course like English, you're going to get pretty good provision wherever you go! Of course, I'd recommends Newnham...we're very easy-going, have a funky experimental drama scene, and English rocks (it's not one of the uber-competitive colleges, but emphasis is on enjoying what we do). But...I'm biased. :wink: :biggrin:


You rule.
I'm actually going to be visiting over Easter, hopefully. What are your Easter dates (holiday), by the way?
:smile:
Newnham sounds wicked.
Reply 198
Newnham is wicked -- well spotted! :wink: (Seriously, though, I would probably be able to big-up most of the colleges, so do take my Newnham-love with the awareness that they're all funky...I just love mine more!)

Er, term ends for vacation on Wednesday (12th March), and then we start again on the 22nd (or 21st?) of April. I'm going away both ends, and am here in the big middle chunk. :smile:
epitome
Er, term ends for vacation on Wednesday (12th March), and then we start again on the 22nd (or 21st?) of April.


:eek: I like the sound of this! :p:

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