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    Sorry to keep on the "is this a respected subject theme?" but I'm just curious as to what people think.

    I'm about to start a degree in Ancient History and Archaeology, and I was wondering whether people thought that History/Ancient History/Classics/Archaeology/Classical Civilisation and the like are respected degree subjects. I'm primarily doing my degree for sheer enjoyment of the subject, although I obviously want to get a job with my degree too! What do people think are perceptions of these types of courses....oh, and assuming that they are taken at good institutions. Cheers!
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    (Original post by Lothlorien)
    Sorry to keep on the "is this a respected subject theme?" but I'm just curious as to what people think.

    I'm about to start a degree in Ancient History and Archaeology, and I was wondering whether people thought that History/Ancient History/Classics/Archaeology/Classical Civilisation and the like are respected degree subjects. I'm primarily doing my degree for sheer enjoyment of the subject, although I obviously want to get a job with my degree too! What do people think are perceptions of these types of courses....oh, and assuming that they are taken at good institutions. Cheers!

    All these degrees are well-respected and you should have no problem getting a job as most graduate training programmes will be quite happy accepting these subjects as they demonstrate that you can research and analyse data.

    I choose AH because it fascinates me (and still does) and had a fantastic time for 4 years but you may find yourself screaming at some of the AH TV programmes as yet another over-paid but comely presenter mispronounces Minerva!
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    Ah, cool! I love Ancient History too, and it annoys me somewhat when people turn their noses up, and say "What d'you want to do that for, what can you do with it?" :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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    Apparently most of the top manager-y people studied history, so it can't be all bad!
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    going to study History too (with Politics though)
    i would love to get a masters on the middle east love the middle east
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    A lot of politicians have history degrees, apparently. History (of any type) is very well respected because it's a core 'academic' subject, with a long history (if you can say this!) as a university course. It proves that you can think and write clearly, analyse different texts/speeches, put events and actions into perspective and research effectively. Also, it shows a willingness to broaden your mind about different cultures, and perspectives on life. (Btw, I don't actually study history at university, but I was very tempted!)
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    hitory is well respected degree. i was going to do it but changed my mind in the last minute.
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    Good job you changed your mind! As you cannot even spell 'History' correctly. :cool:
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    why is history such a respected degree? i mean some doesn't work with it but has read it anyway and that is seen as an advance for someone that hasn't. i'm asking partly cause i would like to read history but my parents think that i shouldn't.
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    (Original post by _EMMA_)
    why is history such a respected degree? i mean some doesn't work with it but has read it anyway and that is seen as an advance for someone that hasn't. i'm asking partly cause i would like to read history but my parents think that i shouldn't.
    History teaches a lot of very relevant skills, such as quickly reading and understanding texts, analysing them and judging their reliability and their usefulness. This is coupled with a knowledge of History which helps with any job remotley concerned with politics/current affairs (which is nearly all jobs).

    As Khruschev said, ""historians are dangerous people - They are capable of upsetting everything".
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    Heres the intro of a very good article I downloaded that helped persuade me to study Economic and social History.

    Preview of Article for Journal of History in Higher Education

    What’s the Use of History?

    The Career Destinations of History Graduates

    Dave Nicholls, Professor of History, Manchester Metropolitan University
    Introduction


    The British state has been concerned to ensure, at least since the time of the Education
    Act of 1870, that the education system meets the needs of the economy. In the case of
    higher education, this concern became particularly acute in the wake of the recession
    of the early 1980s and led to a concerted effort to bring about a paradigmatic shift in
    pedagogic practice. The following decade saw the articulation of a new language in
    higher education which hummed with buzzwords like ‘enterprise’, ‘capability’,
    ‘transferable skills’, ‘graduateness’, and with concepts such as ‘stakeholding’.

    It culminated in many months of heated debate on standards and quality in learning and
    teaching, at the heart of which was the elaboration of subject benchmarks that were
    intended to encapsulate the kinds of knowledge and skills essential to the several
    disciplines taught in universities. While the subject benchmark groups naturally
    stressed the skills that were peculiar to their disciplines, they had perforce as well to
    respond to the government’s agenda.

    Accordingly, they included other, more
    ‘generic’, skills alongside the subject specific ones: skills that students would acquire
    in the course of their education and which would be of use to them in their future
    careers. In the case of history, the skills so identified were self-discipline, selfdirection,
    independence of mind and initiative, ability to work with others, ability to
    assemble, manage and use evidence and information, analytical and problem solving
    capabilities, good oral and writing skills, intellectual integrity and maturity, empathy
    and imaginative insight.


    By its very nature the benchmarking exercise was a ‘craft-controlled’ one,
    inevitably focussing upon the skills which the guardians of the discipline regard as
    inherent to it and expect students to have upon graduation. An altogether different
    way of approaching the question of graduateness is to look at career destinations and
    to try to identify the skills associated with those careers. History graduates, of course,
    may be predisposed by many factors towards particular careers and they certainly
    acquire many intellectual qualities and capabilities during the course of their
    employment.


    Nevertheless, it might reasonably be inferred that their education has
    played no small part in preparing them for these jobs (particularly where there are
    statistically significant clusters) and in making them sufficiently adaptable to adjust to
    them. It is also worth examining career destinations for other reasons. The
    government has recently made ‘employability’ a performance indicator for higher
    education, a defining moment in that ongoing process of change in higher education
    alluded to earlier.


    While one might bridle at this rather crude economistic approach
    to employment statistics – not least because, as we shall see, there are serious
    reservations about the reliability of first destinations as a guide to graduates’ later,
    more permanent employment – it does underline the responsibility of university
    history departments to satisfy the quite legitimate interest of their present and
    prospective students in knowing where a history qualification might ultimately take
    them.


    What follows is intended to answer that need. Beyond that, it will be shown that
    historians have been remarkably successful in reaching the top of their chosen careers
    and often in unexpected sectors of the economy, thus opening the way for some
    conclusions about the employment skills of historians as evidenced by their career
    trajectories
Updated: November 7, 2004
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