B85 - Repeal of Anti-Social Behaviour Order Legislation (Second reading)
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Re: B85 - Repeal of Anti-Social Behaviour Order Legislation (Second reading)That's what Section 3 is for. Do you mean cases where an ASBO was given for an act which might otherwise have had a criminal conviction?(Original post by Alasdair)
Is there a procedure to review those cases where an ASBO was given as opposed to a criminal conviction?
If so, then no. An ASBO is a civil case not a criminal case and the conditions in the ASBO may only specify legal acts not illegal ones. So an ASBO is very unlikely to be used in a situation where a criminal conviction could have been sought and certainly cannot be given in place of a criminal conviction since the ASBO is not filed for in a criminal court.
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Re: B85 - Repeal of Anti-Social Behaviour Order Legislation (Second reading)There is essentially little difference between an ASBO and a CRASBO except that a CRASBO is given after a criminal conviction. Thus the Bill would repeal both.(Original post by Eru Iluvatar)
A question, how will this repeal deal with CRASBOs (or is the idea not to, as these are related to criminal legislation)? -
Re: B85 - Repeal of Anti-Social Behaviour Order Legislation (Second reading)Okay. I meant more to do with actual sentencing, along the same lines as Alasdair's point. Because CRASBOs can be given as an alternative, to other sentences, or as a condition when sentencing, where an actual crime has been committed (rather than, with ASBOs, where no crime neccessarily is committed), don't these need to be dealt with slightly differently to ensure that criminals are not let off?(Original post by UniOfLife)
There is essentially little difference between an ASBO and a CRASBO except that a CRASBO is given after a criminal conviction. Thus the Bill would repeal both. -
Re: B85 - Repeal of Anti-Social Behaviour Order Legislation (Second reading)The number of cases where a person will receive only a CRASBO as a result of a criminal conviction will be fairly small. And in such cases the judge has effectively chosen to give the person a warning rather than a prison sentence or some other punishment. So I don't see a problem of letting criminals off, since they were already "let off" by the judge.(Original post by Eru Iluvatar)
Okay. I meant more to do with actual sentencing, along the same lines as Alasdair's point. Because CRASBOs can be given as an alternative, to other sentences, or as a condition when sentencing, where an actual crime has been committed (rather than, with ASBOs, where no crime neccessarily is committed), don't these need to be dealt with slightly differently to ensure that criminals are not let off?