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Art Foundations?
I'm thinking about going to do an Art Foundation starting in September 2009. Where are people currently and what do you think about where you are or have done your foundation?
Also considering Central Saint Martins, any advice or information about their foundation course would be greatly appreciated. Also accomodation for CSM?
Anyone else planning on going there for a foundation in 2009?
Thanks alot, Clarice.
Also considering Central Saint Martins, any advice or information about their foundation course would be greatly appreciated. Also accomodation for CSM?
Anyone else planning on going there for a foundation in 2009?
Thanks alot, Clarice.
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I was at Ravensbourne and am now at westminster doing fashion. Their rotations are pretty good as are the fashion teachers. Don't touch CSM foundation if you want to do fashion and are a home student. Their fashion groups are reserved pretty much for international students. Wimbledon and Chelsea are both good for fashion rotations too
Freud
I was at CSM, finished a couple of months ago. What would you like to know?
Everything
Freud
I spent a fair amount of time painting 
lol.
Do you get to spend time developing the skills you want to develop or do they make you do a bit of everything? Or is it all like modern abstract stuff that seems to be popular at the moment?
How much time is spent each day in the studio after the initial two week introductory stage? Do the teachers teach you for a certain amount each day then leave you to do whatever you want? How much work are you supposed to do out of lessons around about? How much do you have to spend on materials each week? Are the studios pretty relaxed and your able to talk, go for a drink, go to the toilet etc?
Hope thats enough questions lol
Thanks in advance
Righto. Well I went to Byam Shaw which is an art school that joined up with CSM about 4 years ago. It's in Archway and pretty much seperate to CSM (sort of). It's complicated. Essentially class sizes are smaller, there are fewer specialisms (no fashion or graphic design).
Yeah the first few weeks you go from thingy to thingy and try everything. The sculptors get pissed off because they get made to paint for quite a while but it's really good to have a fresh go at everything. I believe in the main part of CSM you don't try everything - you select a few specialisms you want to try and only do them.
Dear God did Byam Shaw love their conceptualism. But at foundation level don't worry too much about this - you're there to grow, try new stuff and see what suits you. They even managed to get a couple of conceptual sculptures out of me
before I went right back to painting
For us:
Monday: 10-4
Tuesday: 10-4
Wednesday: "PDA" = life drawing, assignments, gallery visits etc
Thursday: 10-4
Friday: an informal lecture followed by a heavy suggestion we visit galleries.
However I think it was quite unusual for an art college to make us turn up everyday, most have wednesdays off I think
Not really. Sometimes they'll call you over for a group critique which wasn't so much teaching as putting everyone on the spot to explain themselves to everyone else in the room. Otherwise you were left to get on with it: if you didn't work or didn't turn up, apart from maybe a letter or two home, then that's your prerogative.
Personally I found this hard. I came from a good state school but I was used to being ignored by teachers - to me talking to teachers was usually because I'd done somthing wrong. Whereas the kids from private schools seems almost like needy toddlers. They'd see a tutor and start shouting 'oooooh look what I've done!' I nearly went off the rails because of this and tbh it never really figured itself out. I'm looking forward to a fresh start next year. Plus you do need quite thick skin, you'll be working when one teacher will come round and give you 'advice' then another will come and tell you exactly the opposite. Who do you listen to?!
I honestly can't answer that. How long's a piece of string? It all depends
Again, I can't really answer. If you're dead keen and you start working with gold and diamonds then pretty ****ing expensive.
Yeah, the studios are great. Just a room you do your thing in. If you feel like it you can throw a can of baked beans at the wall. So we did.
Hope that was some help
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Innuendo_anonymous
Do you get to spend time developing the skills you want to develop or do they make you do a bit of everything?
Yeah the first few weeks you go from thingy to thingy and try everything. The sculptors get pissed off because they get made to paint for quite a while but it's really good to have a fresh go at everything. I believe in the main part of CSM you don't try everything - you select a few specialisms you want to try and only do them.
Or is it all like modern abstract stuff that seems to be popular at the moment?
Dear God did Byam Shaw love their conceptualism. But at foundation level don't worry too much about this - you're there to grow, try new stuff and see what suits you. They even managed to get a couple of conceptual sculptures out of me
before I went right back to painting How much time is spent each day in the studio after the initial two week introductory stage?
For us:
Monday: 10-4
Tuesday: 10-4
Wednesday: "PDA" = life drawing, assignments, gallery visits etc
Thursday: 10-4
Friday: an informal lecture followed by a heavy suggestion we visit galleries.
However I think it was quite unusual for an art college to make us turn up everyday, most have wednesdays off I think
Do the teachers teach you for a certain amount each day then leave you to do whatever you want?
Not really. Sometimes they'll call you over for a group critique which wasn't so much teaching as putting everyone on the spot to explain themselves to everyone else in the room. Otherwise you were left to get on with it: if you didn't work or didn't turn up, apart from maybe a letter or two home, then that's your prerogative.
Personally I found this hard. I came from a good state school but I was used to being ignored by teachers - to me talking to teachers was usually because I'd done somthing wrong. Whereas the kids from private schools seems almost like needy toddlers. They'd see a tutor and start shouting 'oooooh look what I've done!' I nearly went off the rails because of this and tbh it never really figured itself out. I'm looking forward to a fresh start next year. Plus you do need quite thick skin, you'll be working when one teacher will come round and give you 'advice' then another will come and tell you exactly the opposite. Who do you listen to?!
How much work are you supposed to do out of lessons around about?
I honestly can't answer that. How long's a piece of string? It all depends
How much do you have to spend on materials each week?
Again, I can't really answer. If you're dead keen and you start working with gold and diamonds then pretty ****ing expensive.
Are the studios pretty relaxed and your able to talk, go for a drink, go to the toilet etc?
Yeah, the studios are great. Just a room you do your thing in. If you feel like it you can throw a can of baked beans at the wall. So we did.
Hope thats enough questions lol
Thanks in advance
Thanks in advance
Hope that was some help
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Freud
Righto. Well I went to Byam Shaw which is an art school that joined up with CSM about 4 years ago. It's in Archway and pretty much seperate to CSM (sort of). It's complicated. Essentially class sizes are smaller, there are fewer specialisms (no fashion or graphic design).
Yeah the first few weeks you go from thingy to thingy and try everything. The sculptors get pissed off because they get made to paint for quite a while but it's really good to have a fresh go at everything. I believe in the main part of CSM you don't try everything - you select a few specialisms you want to try and only do them.
Dear God did Byam Shaw love their conceptualism. But at foundation level don't worry too much about this - you're there to grow, try new stuff and see what suits you. They even managed to get a couple of conceptual sculptures out of me before I went right back to painting
For us:
Monday: 10-4
Tuesday: 10-4
Wednesday: "PDA" = life drawing, assignments, gallery visits etc
Thursday: 10-4
Friday: an informal lecture followed by a heavy suggestion we visit galleries.
However I think it was quite unusual for an art college to make us turn up everyday, most have wednesdays off I think
Not really. Sometimes they'll call you over for a group critique which wasn't so much teaching as putting everyone on the spot to explain themselves to everyone else in the room. Otherwise you were left to get on with it: if you didn't work or didn't turn up, apart from maybe a letter or two home, then that's your prerogative.
Personally I found this hard. I came from a good state school but I was used to being ignored by teachers - to me talking to teachers was usually because I'd done somthing wrong. Whereas the kids from private schools seems almost like needy toddlers. They'd see a tutor and start shouting 'oooooh look what I've done!' I nearly went off the rails because of this and tbh it never really figured itself out. I'm looking forward to a fresh start next year. Plus you do need quite thick skin, you'll be working when one teacher will come round and give you 'advice' then another will come and tell you exactly the opposite. Who do you listen to?!
I honestly can't answer that. How long's a piece of string? It all depends
Again, I can't really answer. If you're dead keen and you start working with gold and diamonds then pretty ****ing expensive.
Yeah, the studios are great. Just a room you do your thing in. If you feel like it you can throw a can of baked beans at the wall. So we did.
Hope that was some help
Wall o text'd
Yeah the first few weeks you go from thingy to thingy and try everything. The sculptors get pissed off because they get made to paint for quite a while but it's really good to have a fresh go at everything. I believe in the main part of CSM you don't try everything - you select a few specialisms you want to try and only do them.
Dear God did Byam Shaw love their conceptualism. But at foundation level don't worry too much about this - you're there to grow, try new stuff and see what suits you. They even managed to get a couple of conceptual sculptures out of me
before I went right back to painting For us:
Monday: 10-4
Tuesday: 10-4
Wednesday: "PDA" = life drawing, assignments, gallery visits etc
Thursday: 10-4
Friday: an informal lecture followed by a heavy suggestion we visit galleries.
However I think it was quite unusual for an art college to make us turn up everyday, most have wednesdays off I think
Not really. Sometimes they'll call you over for a group critique which wasn't so much teaching as putting everyone on the spot to explain themselves to everyone else in the room. Otherwise you were left to get on with it: if you didn't work or didn't turn up, apart from maybe a letter or two home, then that's your prerogative.
Personally I found this hard. I came from a good state school but I was used to being ignored by teachers - to me talking to teachers was usually because I'd done somthing wrong. Whereas the kids from private schools seems almost like needy toddlers. They'd see a tutor and start shouting 'oooooh look what I've done!' I nearly went off the rails because of this and tbh it never really figured itself out. I'm looking forward to a fresh start next year. Plus you do need quite thick skin, you'll be working when one teacher will come round and give you 'advice' then another will come and tell you exactly the opposite. Who do you listen to?!
I honestly can't answer that. How long's a piece of string? It all depends
Again, I can't really answer. If you're dead keen and you start working with gold and diamonds then pretty ****ing expensive.
Yeah, the studios are great. Just a room you do your thing in. If you feel like it you can throw a can of baked beans at the wall. So we did.
Hope that was some help
Wall o text'd
Wow that was a great reply
Pretty much answered all the questions that I've been wondering about the course. Sounds like its a pretty good eperience all round.N lol at the needy toddlers from private schools. Makes me glad i didn't go to private school.
Thanks for the info bud
Innuendo_anonymous
Wow that was a great reply Pretty much answered all the questions that I've been wondering about the course. Sounds like its a pretty good eperience all round.
N lol at the needy toddlers from private schools. Makes me glad i didn't go to private school.
Thanks for the info bud
Pretty much answered all the questions that I've been wondering about the course. Sounds like its a pretty good eperience all round.N lol at the needy toddlers from private schools. Makes me glad i didn't go to private school.
Thanks for the info bud
Didn't mean to be private schoolist but I did see a difference
Not a problemo, what's your thoughts on CSM?
Hey I found this website if anyones interested to petiiton for free foundation art for everyone not just under 19's , http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/artfound4all/ xoxoxoxoxoxoxo
yeah im going 2 do a foundation fine art course as well... i wanna go to csm but i got D for AS art...i think my work that i do independently is way good enough but its my marks that let me down...
if u wanna see some of my work just follow the link :
http://zhiglov.deviantart.com/gallery/
cheers
if u wanna see some of my work just follow the link :
http://zhiglov.deviantart.com/gallery/
cheers
Yeh I'm starting a foundation studies in art & design in kingston college - school of art & design in a week!! I'm so happy that i didnt have to pay the £1500 fee, although i am 19 yo but i didnt complete the 2nd year of my ND 3D Design course so therefore they waived the fees which is great, no stressing about getting a loan for it!
I've just started my art foundation at the local college and love it. It's the end of week two and already we're starting our second project.
I think each college/uni does the same sort of curriculum, aiming towards a portfolio which you will take to interviews for universities. We have two days of studio work, and then a day of art history, and a day of workshops - usually life drawing and photoshop. There is alot of work, but I love getting to be creative everyday.
I think each college/uni does the same sort of curriculum, aiming towards a portfolio which you will take to interviews for universities. We have two days of studio work, and then a day of art history, and a day of workshops - usually life drawing and photoshop. There is alot of work, but I love getting to be creative everyday.
i'm at manchester at the moment and the course is really good , especially if you're wanting to do fashion/textiles/embroidery !
It doesn't really matter where you do your art foundation, each course offers you the same qualification, skills and experience.
I'm doing Foundation at Wimbledon at the moment and I love it. There's a lot of work, and we get new projects every 2 - 3 weeks or so. I specialise in Theatre Design which is fantastic and the all the staff are really helpful and so enthusiastic. I don't know much about the fashion stuff going on, but I do have a friend doing it and she loves it. They made garments out of huge sheets of paper the other week - everyone was in the corridor photographing their mannequins dressed in these huge paper 'structures'! If you want to ask any questions about Wimbs then just PM me
Hey I'm planning on a 2009 art foundation at Central Saint Martins aswell... How is everyones application process going? portfolio reviews etc? I've yet to hear back from them but thats because I live in indonesia and I expect the earliest date would be next week requesting a portfolio review. I'm not an international student btw, I just study in different countries when I move around as part of my parents job... So my application process is the same as the Home/EU one although the postal system takes a lot longer.
Where else are you guys thinking of applying? I also sent an application to Oxford Brookes... I was thinking about Kingston but then decided I didn't fancy it... I'll also be applying for byam shaw via UCAS route B in march. *Fingers crossed*
Anyone heard much about oxford brookes art foundation? x
Where else are you guys thinking of applying? I also sent an application to Oxford Brookes... I was thinking about Kingston but then decided I didn't fancy it... I'll also be applying for byam shaw via UCAS route B in march. *Fingers crossed*
Anyone heard much about oxford brookes art foundation? x
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