M1 - Edexcel, 21st May - ULTIMATE THREAD

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  1. Kyalimers's Avatar
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    No. Q is going straight down whereas P has a slope to negotiate so its force is affected i.e. its downward force is less.
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    Well where's the threshold for this kind of thing?

    If P was 10kg in weight, it would slide down, surely.
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    Yeah. That question is borderline BUT they usually hint in the blurb or in the questions what is going to happen so you do it that way.
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    I can't see anything in the question that suggests which way the particles will move, to be honest...
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    (Original post by EvenStevens)
    I can't see anything in the question that suggests which way the particles will move, to be honest...
    If its a pretty old paper, you won't. They used to think we knew what would happen back then but they TRY to make it easier for us nowadays.
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    Old?

    It's June 2007! O_o
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    And generally, in these type of questions, Its always the overhanging particle that will move downwards.
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    Old?

    It's June 2007! O_o
    What is it with Edexcel and June 07 :banghead:

    In the S1 they asked people to name an instrument used in the orchestra that weighed around 85Kg!!
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    Haha! I know.

    I did that as practise.
    I wish I could've done that paper as my actual exam. I would have aced it (got 100% in it!).

    And I've got a music A level at grade A so could easily name a heavy instrument =P


    I put a grand piano, just because it's about the heaviest instrument you can get... save for a church organ.
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    (Original post by EvenStevens)
    Haha! I know.

    I did that as practise.
    I wish I could've done that paper as my actual exam. I would have aced it (got 100% in it!).

    And I've got a music A level at grade A so could easily name a heavy instrument =P


    I put a grand piano, just because it's about the heaviest instrument you can get... save for a church organ.
    my mate put piccolo :laugh:
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    I remember that question.. piano was what i put i think..
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    sohanshah, can you explain this one to me? >_<
    Last edited by EvenStevens; 18-05-2008 at 01:39.
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    oooh hang on
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    Let the time when Q hits the ground, equal 0.

    Now imagine P. It is still moving up the slope at the same speed that Q hit the ground. Lets call this speed X.

    So moving at an original speed of X at the position Z, P takes Y time to become stationary on the slope. The string is at its lossest point. For the string to become taught again, P needs to move down the slope back to where it was travelling at speed X. This, we called Z.

    So this will take Y time again.

    So overall time will be 2Y.
    Last edited by Kyalimers; 18-05-2008 at 01:45.
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    I think you confused things by labelling a position A, when position A was already labelled by the pulley.

    But yeah I understand. Cheers =D
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    (Original post by EvenStevens)
    I think you confused things by labelling a position A, when position A was already labelled by the pulley.

    But yeah I understand. Cheers =D
    :banghead:

    I'll change it to Z
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    Re: M1 - Edexcel, 21st May - ULTIMATE THREAD
    EvenStevens, looking back at part (a) of the connected particles question you talked me through. Why when resolving with F=ma is the tension not subtracted away from 1500 as well? Because on other questions, I've seen the tension be subtracted also.
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    (Original post by sohanshah)
    What is it with Edexcel and June 07 :banghead:

    In the S1 they asked people to name an instrument used in the orchestra that weighed around 85Kg!!
    Haa!!
    Are you serious??
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    (Original post by Serendipity*)
    Haa!!
    Are you serious??
    Yes. Quite.
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    Yep I did that exam, I was like WTF? What kind of question is that!
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