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Old 19-05-2008: 19th May 2008 13:59 #1 
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I've got a conditional offer to start studying Law with french at Leeds University this September.

I'm just wondering how good a uni it is for law, the last time i checked it seemed to be pretty good but i'm worried its not good enough to work in a top law firm later on.

In any case, if i were to go to this uni in september and say i got a good grade. Would going to this uni destroy the chances of me working for a top law firm?

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Well studying the LLB with a language is another selling point to the city firms, I imagine. If you perform to a good 2.I standard with good extra-curriciculars and genuine interest in your chosen career path, I don't think you will have anything to worry about.
 
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Well studying the LLB with a language is another selling point to the city firms, I imagine. If you perform to a good 2.I standard with good extra-curriciculars and genuine interest in your chosen career path, I don't think you will have anything to worry about.

Okies. Thanks alot tht is somewhat reassuring.
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Originally Posted by SJ_1
I've got a conditional offer to start studying Law with french at Leeds University this September.

I'm just wondering how good a uni it is for law, the last time i checked it seemed to be pretty good but i'm worried its not good enough to work in a top law firm later on.

In any case, if i were to go to this uni in september and say i got a good grade. Would going to this uni destroy the chances of me working for a top law firm?

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it won't destroy your chances and it won't enhance your chances significantly either. but from my experience, the Leeds graduate I know seems to be at regional or national firms.

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Originally Posted by bryan
it won't destroy your chances and it won't enhance your chances significantly either. but from my observations, I don't see many Leeds law graduates at Magic Circle/international firms. most of them seem to be at regional or national firms.

Okies, well i'll have 2 see once i get to that stage then. Although i do hope it is possible to make it somehow. Thanks
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it won't destroy your chances and it won't enhance your chances significantly either. but from my observations, I don't see many Leeds law graduates at Magic Circle/international firms. most of them seem to be at regional or national firms.

I'm sorry but I'm going to have to take issue with this.

How have you "seen" the sort of graduates at MC/international firms? Have you done a lot of vacation schemes with those firms and spoken to lots of the associates about where they studied?

If not, I assume you've simply been looking at those firms' websites and where the partners have been educated. Clearly that is a pretty poor way of judging the current recruitment policy of a particular firm. However, if you do look at the partners at those firms you'll see a broad range of universities attended by the partners.

So - can I ask how you've come to the conclusion that "I don't see many Leeds law graduates at Magic Circle/international firms"? I worked with Leeds grads at my firm and I know others at other firms.
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I'm sorry but I'm going to have to take issue with this.

How have you "seen" the sort of graduates at MC/international firms? Have you done a lot of vacation schemes with those firms and spoken to lots of the associates about where they studied?

If not, I assume you've simply been looking at those firms' websites and where the partners have been educated. Clearly that is a pretty poor way of judging the current recruitment policy of a particular firm. However, if you do look at the partners at those firms you'll see a broad range of universities attended by the partners.

So - can I ask how you've come to the conclusion that "I don't see many Leeds law graduates at Magic Circle/international firms"? I worked with Leeds grads at my firm and I know others at other firms.

I agree with this completely. I did my law degree at Liverpool which is on a par with Leeds I would say and I know of 4 people in my year who have Magic Circle training contracts and others have training contracts at equally as good international firms that are not easy to get into.

As long as you have strong A-levels and you do well in your degree at Oxbridge or a Russell group university there is no reason why academically you will not be seen as good enough.
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IAs long as you have strong A-levels and you do well in your degree at Oxbridge or a Russell group university there is no reason why academically you will not be seen as good enough.

Well I would be going to Leeds, i'm not sure if its a red brick university or what it is. And A Levels i take English Lit, History, Spanish and French.
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I've seen people with top training contracts from universities regarded as considerably 'worse' than Leeds by most people on here - some people are way too elitist on these forums and if it's not oxbridge it just won't do.
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Leeds is absolutely fine. You really have nothing to worry about.

I've met lots of Leeds graduates who are now working in good city firms (inc the Magic Circle) at vac schemes and open days. Ignore Bryan!
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Originally Posted by chalks
I'm sorry but I'm going to have to take issue with this.

How have you "seen" the sort of graduates at MC/international firms? Have you done a lot of vacation schemes with those firms and spoken to lots of the associates about where they studied?

If not, I assume you've simply been looking at those firms' websites and where the partners have been educated. Clearly that is a pretty poor way of judging the current recruitment policy of a particular firm. However, if you do look at the partners at those firms you'll see a broad range of universities attended by the partners.

So - can I ask how you've come to the conclusion that "I don't see many Leeds law graduates at Magic Circle/international firms"? I worked with Leeds grads at my firm and I know others at other firms.
I said "from my observations". It is just my observations. Also, I said "it won't destroy your chances and it won't enhance your chances significantly either". So I am neutral. I don't know why you guys think I am saying going to Leeds would disadvantage the OP. I never said that...
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Default Re: Law at Leeds Uni?
 
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I said "from my observations". It is just my observations. Also, I said "it won't destroy your chances and it won't enhance your chances significantly either". So I am neutral. I don't know why you guys think I am saying going to Leeds would disadvantage the OP. I never said that...

Oh come on, don't try and wriggle out of it now!

You said that it would be neither an advantage nor a disadvantage. You then carried on to say "but... I don't see many Leeds law graduates at Magic Circle/international firms. most of them seem to be at regional or national firms" as though a Leeds grad was unlikely to get a job in the City. That is patently false.

I reiterate my earlier question: what do you base your "observations" on? What information do you have which enabled you to make this assertion? Where did you find information that suggests that Leeds grads tend to work for regional or national firms?

If you're going to make blanket assertions such as this, which affects the people may approach their Uni choices, you should have something to back it up.

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Oh come on, don't try and wriggle out of it now!

You said that it would be neither an advantage nor a disadvantage. You then carried on to say "but... I don't see many Leeds law graduates at Magic Circle/international firms. most of them seem to be at regional or national firms" as though a Leeds grad was unlikely to get a job in the City. That is patently false.

I reiterate my earlier question: what do you base your "observations" on? What information do you have which enabled you to make this assertion? Where did you find information that suggests that Leeds grads tend to work for regional or national firms?

If you're going to make blanket assertions such as this, which affects the people may approach their Uni choices, you should have something to back it up.
well then, if you are that pedantic, I change that to "but the Leeds graduate I know seems to be at regional or national firms". happy? it was just an "observation" not an "assertion". there is a difference! I clarify once again, i never said going to Leeds would be a disadvantage. i only said it is neither an advantage or disadvantage. don't put words in my mouth!
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Oh come on, don't try and wriggle out of it now!

You said that it would be neither an advantage nor a disadvantage. You then carried on to say "but... I don't see many Leeds law graduates at Magic Circle/international firms. most of them seem to be at regional or national firms" as though a Leeds grad was unlikely to get a job in the City. That is patently false.
this is your inference only! did I go on and say Leeds grad are "unlikely to get a job in the City"? In fact, I am just talking about the Leeds graduate I know. They and their friends didn't apply to City firms because they don't like City life. For them it is a matter of life style not ability.
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I'm not being pedantic. Your post was, at the very least, extremely misleading.

Was your observation based on which firm one Leeds graduate is now working at? If so, surely you can recognise that isn't exactly the best basis on which to base your original post?
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this is your inference only! did I go on and say Leeds grad are "unlikely to get a job in the City"? In fact, I am just talking about the Leeds graduate I know. They and their friends didn't apply to City firms because they don't like City life. For them it is a matter of life style not ability.

You're confusing me now.

Your original post said that you didn't see many Leeds grads at magic circle or international firms. Correct? The clear implication from that was that, in your view or experience, Leeds grads were unable to get those sorts of jobs.

You're now saying that you know a couple of Leeds graduates and they decided not to apply to London firms. How did you get from that to being able to say you haven't seen many Leeds grads at City law firms?!
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Your original post said that you didn't see many Leeds grads at magic circle or international firms. Correct? The clear implication from that was that, in your view or experience, Leeds grads were unable to get those sorts of jobs.
No. I mean, in my experience, I don't know many Leeds grads at magic circle or international firms. I didn't comment on the ability of Leeds grads nor their ability to get "those sorts of jobs". As I have emphasised many times, I was only making a personal observation based on the 10-20 Leeds graduates I know. I know 10-20 is a small number. That's why I am neutral and hence said it would be neither an advantage or disadvantage.

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You'll have to excuse me if I take what you say with a pinch of salt as your story seems to be changing all the time.

I'm assuming you are not at Leeds yourself? How then do you know where 10 to 20 graduates from the law faculty at that institution have decided where to train?

Do you see the point I'm trying to make? If I had posted and said "I don't know any Birmingham graduates at Linklaters" people might understandably assume that I was making a point about the recruitment policy of that firm whereas, if we go by your reasoning, all I was trying to say was (a) i don't know anyone who graduated from Birmingham and (b) I don't know many people at Linklaters.

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You'll have to excuse me if I take what you say with a pinch of salt as your story seems to be changing all the time.

I'm assuming you are not at Leeds yourself? How then do you know where 10 to 20 graduates from the law faculty at that institution have decided where to train?

Do you see the point I'm trying to make? If I had posted and said "I don't know any Birmingham graduates at Linklaters" people might understandably assume that I was making a point about the recruitment policy of that firm whereas, if we go by your reasoning, all I was trying to say was (a) i don't know anyone who graduated from Birmingham and (b) I don't know many people at Linklaters.
My "story" hasn't changed. All along, I was making a personal observation based on the people I know and never intended to make a general point about recruitment policies.

No. If you said "I don't know any Birmingham graduates at Linklaters", I would think all you are trying to say is maybe there are Birmingham graduates at Linklaters, but you don't know them. I wouldn't understand it as Birmingham graduates aren't able to get jobs at Linklaters.

My main point was: Going to Leeds would neither advantage or disadvantage you.

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