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dafunkyguy
Since the new generation is raised up in a Chinese government...it seems that the use of English has greatly decreased. I agree with you, but many are trying to promote the use of Mandarin (that is my guess). Though English is still popular in Hong Kong...I doubt anyone would want to use English in their university courses...especially when majority of the time is spent on studying Chinese during their elementary and secondary years.

It may not be true that the school children are less happy...but I'm definitely sure that the general population is much more stabilized than before.

No, all the top universities in HK use English as the medium of instruction. The graduates will be unemployable if this is not true.
~|Shock|~
Thats not suprising, the mainland China has one of the toughest school in the world. The secoundary school I went to require me to get there at 7am and finish at 6pm. It is 11 bloody hours of hard work and thats not it, there are still oceans and oceans of homework to complete:no:

The government maybe pushing it, but if everybody here in England cannot speak French, I still wont call the English education system a failure (although, as a teaching asistant I have seen Yr11s who cannot do 2 x 4 =8 so maybe, it is).

Not that long ago I heard that some people in HK are campaigning for a general election for their governer. I have a question, if they dont have a elected English governer, why now?:confused:

You have it, it is a governor. Traditional governors wear white, military-ceremonious style uniform. The last government Chris Patten broke that tradition, much to the dismay of E II R. You don't elect a military general do you?
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s.e.r.e.n.e
No, all the top universities in HK use English as the medium of instruction. The graduates will be unemployable if this is not true.


I know that...but I'm saying that the students usually use Chinese as their language of instruction during their primary, elementary, and secondary years. They are so adapted to using Chinese so much that they don't have any opportunities to use English to communicate with others. That's the main problem.
~|Shock|~
Every government have its problems, same in Hong Kong, same in everywhere else. USA and UK are suffering a financial crisis right now, inflation, problem with immigration and intergration, and trouble with all sorts of diseases, terrorism, in fact they are almost universal problems in every country, rich and poor alike.

The English Governer may have done a better job(I doubt it, there are other kind of problems such as corruption, mafia, illegal gambling, money laundering, etc etc), but in the Nanjing Treaty, HongKong is to be leased to Britain for 100 years, and I'm afraid when 100 years is up (in fact it took longer than that), HongKong would have to be returned to China.

For God's sake, 99 years was only for New Territories. Hong Kong Island and Kowloon Peninsula was leased to Britain perpetually.

I think there must be some sort of brainwash campaign by CCTV or People's Daily...
dafunkyguy
I know that...but I'm saying that the students usually use Chinese as their language of instruction during their primary, elementary, and secondary years. They are so adapted to using Chinese so much that they don't have any opportunities to use English to communicate with others. That's the main problem.

No during the colonial days the schools used English textbooks from secondary school onwards. But after 1997 the new government arrangement dictated that only the 5 -10% of schools could use English. That proved to be a disaster.
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s.e.r.e.n.e
No during the colonial days the schools used English textbooks from secondary school onwards. But after 1997 the new government arrangement dictated that only the 5 -10% of schools could use English. That proved to be a disaster.


It may not be a disaster...it may be an opportunity for people in Hong Kong to go to China and progress onwards. Though English would be a third language...it may be better for the general population.
you know what serene, we have a large number of HK natives on this forum and thread, why don't you ask them?
s.e.r.e.n.e
For God's sake, 99 years was only for New Territories. Hong Kong Island and Kowloon Peninsula was leased to Britain perpetually.


yes, quoting imperialistic treaties will definitely make you more popular.


s.e.r.e.n.e
I think there must be some sort of brainwash campaign by CCTV or People's Daily...


if i had a nickel...
Original post by &#20026
you know what serene, we have a large number of HK natives on this forum and thread, why don't you ask them?

There is very important difference here between you and me.

[INDENT]I have stayed in Hong Kong and you haven't. [/INDENT]
dafunkyguy
It may not be a disaster...it may be an opportunity for people in Hong Kong to go to China and progress onwards. Though English would be a third language...it may be better for the general population.

Are you crazy? Hong Kong aspires to be an int'l city! :woo:
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s.e.r.e.n.e
For God's sake, 99 years was only for New Territories. Hong Kong Island and Kowloon Peninsula was leased to Britain perpetually.

I think there must be some sort of brainwash campaign by CCTV or People's Daily...


To provide a trade harbour for Opium is hardly honerable in my opinion. In fact, I do not consider anything political can be "perpetual", let alone an unequal treaty. The word "lease" also tells the whole story, just like you are leasing a room in your school campus, dosent mean you own it, the owner may not do as good a job as you keeping it clean, yet it still dosent stop him being the legal owner of the room.
s.e.r.e.n.e
I have stayed in Hong Kong and you haven't.


how do you know? Do you even know where i am from, or what race i am?
also, i ve stayed in HK makes a very poor arguement, i ve stayed in ShanDong, but i know very little about the people there or the local politics
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s.e.r.e.n.e
I have stayed in Hong Kong


Bet the natives were thrilled to have the likes of you in their city... :s-smilie:
wxy
Bet the natives were thrilled to have the likes of you in their city...


umm, owned,pwned and burned. ouch
Original post by &#20026
how do you know? Do you even know where i am from, or what race i am?
also, i ve stayed in HK makes a very poor arguement, i ve stayed in ShanDong, but i know very little about the people there or the local politics

I still remember vividly the anxiety in the community in the years leading up to the 197 handover. Jardine, one of HK's leading company at that time, decided to shift to Singapore and HSBC finally decided to shift its headquarters from HK Central to London, due to "unforeseeable political risk".

From 1995 onwards, many families that I known of in Hong Kong either migrated back to the UK or the US, or to Australia. On the night of handover, there was an unusually heavy downpour. I still remember how Patten's daughters were crying and sobbing and waving goodbye to Hong Kong, the place that they loved so much.
s.e.r.e.n.e
I still remember how Patten's daughters were crying and sobbing and waving goodbye to Hong Kong, the place that they loved so much.


This is a very good reason why HK should still be British, because the governor's daughters cried.

is it just me or is this a ridiculous reason.

Sure there were anxieties about the political change, but did any political change actually happen that concerns your normal average joe on the street?

Also your reply has nothing to do with my previous response which your quoted.

ps, why the **** are you making this thread political again, is it just me or do people get really annoyed when you sure your face here? please have the common courtesy to leave, your posts have nothing to do with the thread title.
Original post by &#20026
This is a very good reason why HK should still be British, because the governor's daughters cried.

is it just me or is this a ridiculous reason.

Sure there were anxieties about the political change, but did any political change actually happen that concerns your normal average joe on the street?

Also your reply has nothing to do with my previous response which your quoted.

ps, why the **** are you making this thread political again, is it just me or do people get really annoyed when you sure your face here? please have the common courtesy to leave, your posts have nothing to do with the thread title.

I was just saying that Patten's daughters cried, and so did many of us. I don't know why you need to attack this so aggressively.
umm because it was very much irrelevent, you can cry all you like, i care very little.

interesting fact, my dad actually met patten and had a conversation with him about HK handover and current status.
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s.e.r.e.n.e
Are you crazy? Hong Kong aspires to be an int'l city! :woo:


No I'm not crazy...and if I was...I don't think I could write a comment in here anyways. :yep:
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Hong Kong is definitely not as bad as some people thought it was going to be before the handover, all those people who 'escaped' to Canada probably wouldn't find much different in today's HK compared to pre-1997.

The Chinese government has largely (but not totally) allowed HK to have a high degree of autonomy (they know that failed Chinese socialism would destroy HK's prosperous free market). Some things are worse there is less political freedom (though there wasn't much during colonial anyway), press freedom is worse because journalists are scared, pollution has increased, SARs was disgraceful...

However all countries have their ups and downs. How has the UK been in the last 10 years?

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