[Mcnubn]

(Original post by miniteen)
No, but I'd be very very interested in that. I have the HSK 6, and would really like to learn how to write academic Chinese. Do you have more details? Could you ask your teacher?

Saw your pm, but will reply here so others can see it.

http://ieas.berkeley.edu/iup/ has all the information you need

Its $16,000 for a year long course, $8500 for 1 semester and $4800 for the summer intensive course. (more than I thought!)

You need to have an intermediate level of Mandarin (HSK6) and 2 years of studying Mandarin in college/uni.

The price is immense, but apparently the course is outstanding (haven't heard a single complaint) as there is 1 teacher for every 3 students and the teachers are hired looong term and properly trained in the IUP model. My uni teacher told me that it was incredibly effective for his friends and is often used by governments that are seeking to train diplomats or for academics to quickly improve their mandarin. He even claims that his friends that took the course (all American), have an incredibly vocabulary in Mandarin that embarasses him (a Chinese academic).

I have also heard that theres no chance of doing any work on the side whilst your on the course. Apparently its so intense that after homework you just want to sleep, and weekends are purely for resting You will probably find more information (and reviews) at www.chinese-forums.com

If I had the money, I'd definitely do it...as it is, I think I'll have to work for a few years and try save up :<

[*Whitney*]

(Original post by Vulpes)
Where are you currently studying, if you don't mind me asking?

I'm studying Adult Nursing in Birmingham.

[alex_hk90]

(Original post by Mcnubn)
Saw your pm, but will reply here so others can see it.

http://ieas.berkeley.edu/iup/ has all the information you need

Its $16,000 for a year long course, $8500 for 1 semester and $4800 for the summer intensive course. (more than I thought!)

You need to have an intermediate level of Mandarin (HSK6) and 2 years of studying Mandarin in college/uni.

The price is immense, but apparently the course is outstanding (haven't heard a single complaint) as there is 1 teacher for every 3 students and the teachers are hired looong term and properly trained in the IUP model. My uni teacher told me that it was incredibly effective for his friends and is often used by governments that are seeking to train diplomats or for academics to quickly improve their mandarin. He even claims that his friends that took the course (all Chinese), have an incredibly vocabulary in Mandarin that embarasses him (a Chinese academic).

I have also heard that theres no chance of doing any work on the side whilst your on the course. Apparently its so intense that after homework you just want to sleep, and weekends are purely for resting You will probably find more information (and reviews) at www.chinese-forums.com

If I had the money, I'd definitely do it...as it is, I think I'll have to work for a few years and try save up :<

Thanks for the info - it sounds really interesting! Hopefully I'll be at a level to do that in a few years time.

[miniteen]

(Original post by Mcnubn)
Saw your pm, but will reply here so others can see it.

http://ieas.berkeley.edu/iup/ has all the information you need

Its $16,000 for a year long course, $8500 for 1 semester and $4800 for the summer intensive course. (more than I thought!)

You need to have an intermediate level of Mandarin (HSK6) and 2 years of studying Mandarin in college/uni.

The price is immense, but apparently the course is outstanding (haven't heard a single complaint) as there is 1 teacher for every 3 students and the teachers are hired looong term and properly trained in the IUP model. My uni teacher told me that it was incredibly effective for his friends and is often used by governments that are seeking to train diplomats or for academics to quickly improve their mandarin. He even claims that his friends that took the course (all American), have an incredibly vocabulary in Mandarin that embarasses him (a Chinese academic).

I have also heard that theres no chance of doing any work on the side whilst your on the course. Apparently its so intense that after homework you just want to sleep, and weekends are purely for resting You will probably find more information (and reviews) at www.chinese-forums.com

If I had the money, I'd definitely do it...as it is, I think I'll have to work for a few years and try save up :<

I'm seriously considering this. But at the same time, I watched the videos of the people talking about it and it seems like their level was relatively poor to begin with. I think I'll go investigate it myself seeing as I'm currently in Beijing. Never been to Qinghua so it'll be fun. x)

[cc2468]

(Original post by hct1802)
From personal experience, Management was alright. It gave me a break from the Computer Science modules, added something different to the course as it wasn't quite problem solving/programming/discrete mathematics etc. as you would learn in Comp Sci modules.

Not sure about other courses at other universities but for me, my management modules this year were Economics and OB (I had 8 modules - 6 were Comp Sci and 2 were Management). Next year I'll be doing Accounting & Marketing. The general perception that I got from studying the management modules is that it's more of a social science based and you can't get away with understanding theories - you also have to think about them and express your opinions and compare them/reflect on the uses IRL. My economics module also had a calculus section though, and also was quite mathematical. Yet for one of the 3 questions I had to do in my exam, we could choose between a mathematical or essay based question.

Unfortunately for OB (Organisational Behaviour) where it was purely essay based, I learnt it the hard way. I guess I just explained the theories (as you would do in a science based subject - or just writing the answer/solution). My grade wasn't great.

Some of the stuff covered also overlapped with the content that my friends were learning in Business Management, but they did to far greater detail. That's not surprising though as it's only a minor out of my course.

I heard that econ. goes from no maths to all maths, which is exciting for me because I feel that now I can actually apply mathematical concepts to it. Then again, it's probably a lot less maths-based than computer science. Is organizational behavior sort of like psychology? I've never taken psych, so I wouldn't know what it's like.

Would you say business management is easier than CompSci though? I hear from a lot of people that management is one of the easiest majors. For example, my mom says when she went to a technology Uni in China she deliberately picked management, which she coasted through while her friends in say, physics suffered. But you're saying that OB is harder than CompSci because of essay-writing?

I approach English and Maths pretty much the same ways, so I'm curious how most people identify with maths/sciences or languages/humanities. I think maths helps me be more logical, which helps in writing essays.

[hct1802]

(Original post by cc2468)
I heard that econ. goes from no maths to all maths, which is exciting for me because I feel that now I can actually apply mathematical concepts to it. Then again, it's probably a lot less maths-based than computer science. Is organizational behavior sort of like psychology? I've never taken psych, so I wouldn't know what it's like.

Would you say business management is easier than CompSci though? I hear from a lot of people that management is one of the easiest majors. For example, my mom says when she went to a technology Uni in China she deliberately picked management, which she coasted through while her friends in say, physics suffered. But you're saying that OB is harder than CompSci because of essay-writing?

I approach English and Maths pretty much the same ways, so I'm curious how most people identify with maths/sciences or languages/humanities. I think maths helps me be more logical, which helps in writing essays.

You're right about the Comp Sci being more maths based than the economics, but to be honest even the mathematics itself were very different. Studying economics with calculus is a completely different type of maths to the ones that I found in Comp Sci, which was more Discrete Mathematics with some statistics.

I'm not sure about the link between Organisational Behaviour and Psychology, likewise I also never studied Psychology at school before attending university. If I had to guess though, then in a way I suppose they are linked, as OB seems to cover the things such as organisational structure and culture and how it develops within an organisation and its impact on employees and other topics such as conflict and negotiation and how to motivate individuals.

Regarding your question about whether management is an easier degree, I can see where she is coming from, but in my opinion whilst it is easier to pass, it is more difficult to do well in (if that makes any sense). In my opinion, whilst my Computer Science modules were more challenging, I believe that even though I found it more difficult, it was more probable to do well in compared to management. Although most of my friends passed in Business Management, only a selective few managed to get a 1:1 average in their first year but that being said I'm guessing a lot more passed on their course compared to mine.

If you approach Maths/English the same way, I guess that you probably will be able to apply your knowledge and still do well. I definitely know that I approach them differently, but everyone has their own different way I guess!

[cc2468]

(Original post by hct1802)
You're right about the Comp Sci being more maths based than the economics, but to be honest even the mathematics itself were very different. Studying economics with calculus is a completely different type of maths to the ones that I found in Comp Sci, which was more Discrete Mathematics with some statistics.

I'm not sure about the link between Organisational Behaviour and Psychology, likewise I also never studied Psychology at school before attending university. If I had to guess though, then in a way I suppose they are linked, as OB seems to cover the things such as organisational structure and culture and how it develops within an organisation and its impact on employees and other topics such as conflict and negotiation and how to motivate individuals.

Regarding your question about whether management is an easier degree, I can see where she is coming from, but in my opinion whilst it is easier to pass, it is more difficult to do well in (if that makes any sense). In my opinion, whilst my Computer Science modules were more challenging, I believe that even though I found it more difficult, it was more probable to do well in compared to management. Although most of my friends passed in Business Management, only a selective few managed to get a 1:1 average in their first year but that being said I'm guessing a lot more passed on their course compared to mine.

If you approach Maths/English the same way, I guess that you probably will be able to apply your knowledge and still do well. I definitely know that I approach them differently, but everyone has their own different way I guess!

Ohh that makes sense. Economics I find doesn't have much application in the real world, I'm learning it mainly because it's interesting, not because it's pre-professional. Does management has real-world application, or is it also more theoretical? I'm asking this because it seems that management would be more applicable to work, but what you describe to me sounds pretty theoretical too.

It's too bad that Econ is mostly calculus. Byebye vectors, trig, sequences and functions. I guess learning the different topics helps in an interdisciplinary way though.

When I say I approach them the same way, I mean literary analysis since my english classes are only literary analysis. It requires very strong logical thinking skills, which I find overlaps with solving maths problems or writing proofs. Creative writing would be a whole new story.

Thanks for all the tips, I'll keep them in mind. (:

[Kolya]

Anybody know if there's a decent hotpot restaurant in London? Sichuan style is preferred, but I imagine I can't be fussy.

[Mcnubn]

I've definitely smelt one around chinatown

[Kolya]

(Original post by Mcnubn)
I've definitely smelt one around chinatown

Last time I went to Chinatown it looked dominated by Guangdong style food, with other styles hard to find. Perhaps it's changed since then?

[Mcnubn]

http://www.chinatownlondon.org/page/eating-out/7/116

This has all (or most of) the China Town restaurants. Seems to be about 4 sichuan restaurants with 1 definitely doing hotpot (the others might do too, worth checking out). Also I think some of the cantonese restaurants will do hotpot too (atleast the ones in bristol do hotpot with a group of 4 or more)

[Vulpes]

Going on a eurotrip tonight!!!

[21Grapes]

(Original post by Vulpes)
Going on a eurotrip tonight!!!

Which countries?? Have fun!!

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[Vulpes]

(Original post by 21Grapes)
Which countries?? Have fun!!

This was posted from The Student Room's Android App on my GT-I9100

Thanks!

Heading to Berlin right now. Should be visiting Italy, France, Germany, Switzerland, Austria

[Pomppufiilis]

(Original post by Kolya)
Last time I went to Chinatown it looked dominated by Guangdong style food, with other styles hard to find. Perhaps it's changed since then?

Chinatown is still pretty dominated by the canto style food. There are two Taiwanese restaurants, one Beijing restaurant and one Sichuan that I know of, but I don't think it does hot pot. I think there is a hot pot one on the part of Chinatown facing charingcross road, not sure of the name, I think KTV is available there as well.


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[alex_hk90]

Hi Chinese people, I was wondering if someone could please help me translate something (English to Chinese)?

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I'd like to translate this for my PianoFiles profile page:

(Original post by alex_hk90)
Although it would be nice if you have something I'd like in return, it's not strictly necessary (especially for newer members). However, for rarer sheets (mostly marked *Rare*) I could decide to trade only for my requested sheets or similarly difficult to find sheets. Please note that the 'quality' in my sheet descriptions refer only to the image (i.e. scan, document), not the music (i.e. transcription, arrangement) itself. Also, all my requests are for Piano arrangements, I am aware that there are Guitar ones available for most, if not all, of them.

My Chinese writing is really bad and I can't seem to get anywhere close.

Thanks in advance for any help.

[Sianeh]

(Original post by Kolya)
I'm working. It's alright. Zhengzhou is a second tier city. It doesn't have all the facilities or attractions of places like BJ or Shanghai or Nanjing or Shenzhen, but it still offers a reasonable quality of life and it's growing and developing rapidly. To place it on a very crude scale of western-ness: it has a couple of Starbucks, but no Ikea and no real expat bars.

I haven't managed to travel around Henan yet, so I can't say anything about the rest of the province. My experience of the capital, though, is far from what comes to the minds of horrified zhongguoren when I tell them I work in Henan.

Ahh sorry took so long to reply. Zhengzhou sounds like a slightly smaller Dalian then (North-east where I spent last year) I have a friend moving to Yilin in Shaanxi come August...bearing in mind this is a girl who hated China/BJ/Dalian and had a pretty bad reaction to all food consumed last year I wonder what she's doing! China <3 hits again. I'm slightly jealous, but I know I'll be out again next summer for sure! Enjoy Zhengzhou, and if you do venture around Henan please do tell as I want a few "off the beaten track" places to go to.

[Sianeh]

(Original post by Mcnubn)
Saw your pm, but will reply here so others can see it.

http://ieas.berkeley.edu/iup/ has all the information you need

Its $16,000 for a year long course, $8500 for 1 semester and $4800 for the summer intensive course. (more than I thought!)

You need to have an intermediate level of Mandarin (HSK6) and 2 years of studying Mandarin in college/uni.

The price is immense, but apparently the course is outstanding (haven't heard a single complaint) as there is 1 teacher for every 3 students and the teachers are hired looong term and properly trained in the IUP model. My uni teacher told me that it was incredibly effective for his friends and is often used by governments that are seeking to train diplomats or for academics to quickly improve their mandarin. He even claims that his friends that took the course (all American), have an incredibly vocabulary in Mandarin that embarasses him (a Chinese academic).

I have also heard that theres no chance of doing any work on the side whilst your on the course. Apparently its so intense that after homework you just want to sleep, and weekends are purely for resting You will probably find more information (and reviews) at www.chinese-forums.com

If I had the money, I'd definitely do it...as it is, I think I'll have to work for a few years and try save up :<

Do you happen to know what the course is like in terms of speaking mandarin? From what you said it sounds intense in class and homework time so wondering when speaking comes in (unless you do a hell of lot more in class - with 3 people this may be more feasible). I'm contemplating whether to just spend another 3 months (next summer) in China to keep up my Mandarin without classes, just travelling round and chatting or whether to go on another year long programme..this clearly being one of the best (but also most expensive!)

[Mcnubn]

(Original post by Sianeh)
Do you happen to know what the course is like in terms of speaking mandarin? From what you said it sounds intense in class and homework time so wondering when speaking comes in (unless you do a hell of lot more in class - with 3 people this may be more feasible). I'm contemplating whether to just spend another 3 months (next summer) in China to keep up my Mandarin without classes, just travelling round and chatting or whether to go on another year long programme..this clearly being one of the best (but also most expensive!)

I think theres also 1-1 tuition everyday, not 100% sure on that though. I know that some of the people that do this course go into careers where they have to speak with government officials quite regularly, so I assume there is a lot of opportunity to develop the spoken language.

the chinese forums link in my previous post should have more info on it if you look around, I would try to find something but my bloody glasses broke >.<

[Tyler Durden.]

ATTENTION!

Need help to translate my CV into (simplified) Chinese.

Leicester area - willing to pay well if you can do a good job.

See this thread for info - http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show....php?t=2063463

Please contact me if you can help.

Cheers.