Firstly, do you know how you're going to fund your MA? As for basic costs, you're looking at around £10 000 for course fees, accomodation and general day to day costs.
PhD funding can either be done through the research councils or via a studentship.
PhD funding through the research councils (someone on here will know which council to apply to) is higly competitive and only the minority (we're talking 25/30%) actually recieve funding. It is for 3 years but if you don't get it, you can apply the following year and recieve 2 years' worth of funding. Your MA (only just found this out myself) has also got to be approved as good enough to provide the relevent research training required for further study.
You have to do a research proposal, make sure the department is the ideal place for what you want to research so having the top names in your field at the relevent university will help. Plus decent references, your UG results, your MA results etc etc etc
Studentships are fully paid for 3 or 4 years, either by just a university, or through both a university and a research council. They tend to be advertised on university websites, academic job websites, places like the Times Higher Education supplement etc.
Bar funding/studentships, you've got the option of a bank loan or self funding. Hope this helps a bit
PhD funding through the research councils (someone on here will know which council to apply to)
Education is ESRC. Have a word in Boosh's shell-like. Might be worth going for the 1+3 rather than the +3 if you're going for a PGCE first, that way you might be spared having to cough up for your Masters.
PhD funding through the research councils (someone on here will know which council to apply to) is higly competitive and only the minority (we're talking 25/30%) actually recieve funding. Also, it's only a year's worth at a time, so you would have to apply each year.
Are you sure? I thought you get offered funding and its yours for the duration of the course, rather than having to reapply every year?
Chocolate gateau? I curse thee! I'm having haddock for tea. Chocolate gateau beats haddock hands down.
Not if it was a ninja haddock - then it would win. I had chicken stir-fry for tea. I actually really wanted a cheese sandwich, but I have no cheese.
There is a chocolate vending machine in the foyer of my building (it vends chocolate, rather than being made FROM chocolate), but why can they not install a cheese vending machine? With complimentary miniature bottles of red wine?
Not if it was a ninja haddock - then it would win. I had chicken stir-fry for tea. I actually really wanted a cheese sandwich, but I have no cheese.
There is a chocolate vending machine in the foyer of my building (it vends chocolate, rather than being made FROM chocolate), but why can they not install a cheese vending machine? With complimentary miniature bottles of red wine?
I have just been shopping so will be eating like a God for the next week, before resorting to beans on toast and tomato soup for the rest of the month.
The arts vending machine also only sells rubbish chocolate, as I recall. Even the Mason Lounge only really caters for those with an insatiable passion for Ginsters.
I think you should invent a cheese vending machine. Although it would probably have to be chilled since warm brie can be messy.
I have just been shopping so will be eating like a God for the next week, before resorting to beans on toast and tomato soup for the rest of the month.
The arts vending machine also only sells rubbish chocolate, as I recall. Even the Mason Lounge only really caters for those with an insatiable passion for Ginsters.
I think you should invent a cheese vending machine. Although it would probably have to be chilled since warm brie can be messy.
Sod my PhD! My new course in life is set! I shall invent a machine that vends cheese in all its infinite variety! My statue will fill the empty plinth in Trafalgar Square, and lazy gourmands will weep with gratitude before my recumbent figure!
Actually, they probably already have cheese vending machines in Japan. You can get virtually anything from a vending machine there. Back to History of Art, then...
Cheese vending - do pieces of apple and crackers come as a side order?
Re: doctoral funding - didn't realise that some departments can't put forward students!
In answer to question 1: yes, they would, in my new fromage-focused world order.
In answer to your second point - I believe quotas are distributed on a dept. by dept. basis, and essentially they equal an average success rate from the last 4 years plus 100% again. So if a dept secures an average of 30 funded places, they can submit 60 people this year. If they have no recent success (or if a certain amount of PhD students fail to submit within 3 years) they revoke the quota, I think.
I will be living at home for my MA so i just need to get the tuition fees of £3,450 which my parents kindly offered to pay for me, the course requires I am doing some kind of school based work so i will work part time as a suppy teacher.
I am actually really confused about the best way to get to do a PhD. The MA i applied to I am really really interested in doing. Even though it is a taught masters, I have to do an extensive research project in it, I am really not entirely sure how it all works..
I am thinking studentship might not be an option.. I feel I will scrape to attain a 2:1 and get a 2:2 instead. I was/am interested in studying at the University of British Columbia, Canada and Roehampton, London for the PhD. Roehampton when I mailed them said that the MA should be fine apposed to a research one, although I think I still need to do a 1+3 with them, UBC said that they will count my last 2 years of study (grades), so If I get a 2:2 I can hopefully make it up and get good grades in the PGCE and MA to allow me to get on to their course.
Why do things have to be made so complicated? >.<
<Offtopic>I wouldnt put it past the japanese to make vending machines sell cheese...it's totaly insane some of the stuff you can get from them...</Offtopic>
Hi all,
I have just finished my undergrad degree, will be embarking on post-graduate study; a PGCE followed by a MA in Educational Studies.
How would I go about applying for funding for a PhD? I assume I would need to do it around the time I start my MA?
I am interested in doing it in Education.
Thank you~
the esrc provides funding for education, and your first point of call would be to find out which universities are approved to receive esrc scholarships (not all do). a list can be found on the esrc website. you HAVE to have a research masters training (typically an MEd/MSc/MA in Educational Research) otherwise you won't get paid a penny, but you can get funding for this special masters from the esrc.
failing all of this, some places advertise for research assistants and teaching assistants which help pay for the course.
www.jobs.ac.uk is a good place to start the hunt for scholarships.
also check out www.esrc.ac.uk for the list of approved unis.
sometimes departmental (i.e. non-esrc) scholarships are available, but these tend to be for fee reduction or no fees only, and you don't get any cash to live of.
Keep in mind that many doctorate programs in the US offer full funding (tuition waiver and living expenses), so you should consider that if you're willing to spend some time overseas. The only negative aspect of that is that doctorate degrees tend to take an extra 1-2 years in the US.
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Might be worth going for the 1+3 rather than the +3 if you're going for a PGCE first, that way you might be spared having to cough up for your Masters.
I'm having haddock for tea. Chocolate gateau beats haddock hands down.
