[apotoftea]

Here's the new 09 Times GUG:

1 Oxford
2 Cambridge
3 Imperial College
4 London School of Economics
5 St Andrews
6 Warwick
7 University College London
8 Durham
9 York
10 Bristol
11 King's College London
12 Loughborough
13 Exeter
14 Leicester
15 Bath
16 Nottingham
=16 Southampton
18 Edinburgh
19 Lancaster
20 Newcastle
=20 Glasgow
22 Sheffield
23 East Anglia
24 School of Oriental and African Studies
25 Birmingham
26 Aberdeen
27 Manchester
28 Aston
29 Cardiff
30 Royal Holloway
31 Leeds
=31 Reading
=31 Queen's Belfast
34 Liverpool
35 Strathclyde
36 Kent
37 Queen Mary, London
38 Sussex
39 Surrey
40 Stirling
41 Keele
42 Essex 7
43 Aberystwyth
44 Dundee
45 Hull
46 Goldsmiths College
47 Heriot-Watt
48 Swansea
49 Bradford
50 City
51 Bangor
52 Brunel
53 Ulster
54 Robert Gordon
55 Oxford Brookes
56 Nottingham Trent
57 Bournemouth
58 Gloucestershire
59 Chichester
60 Brighton
61 Portsmouth
62 Plymouth
63 Central Lancashire
64 Napier
65 West of England
66 Winchester
67 Staffordshire
68 Glasgow Caledonian
=68 Queen Margaret Edinburgh
70 Lampeter
71 Birmingham City
72 Bath Spa 72%
73 Northumbria
74 Coventry
75 University of the Arts, London
76 Sheffield Hallam
77 Glamorgan
=77 De Montfort
79 Hertfordshire
80 Canterbury Christ Church
81 Worcester
82 Sunderland
83 Salford
84 Northampton
85 UWIC, Cardiff
86 Roehampton
=86 Chester
88 Teesside
89 Bedfordshire
90 Huddersfield
91 York St John
92 Manchester Metropolitan
93 Kingston
94 Liverpool John Moores
95 Derby
96 UWCN, Newport
97 Southampton Solent
98 Edge Hill
99 Cumbria
100 Abertay
101 Leeds Metropolitan
=101 Westminster
103 West of Scotland
=103 Lincoln
105 Middlesex
106 Anglia Ruskin
107 Wolverhampton
108 Bucks New
109 East London
110 Greenwich
111 Bolton
112 Thames Valley
113 London South Bank

http://extras.timesonline.co.uk/tol_...rsityguide.php

~runs for cover before the arguements start ~

[prospectivEEconomist]

Omg Omg Omg. Wow, they royally screwed up the economics table! Birmingham over York/Bath/Nottingham/Bristol? That table has lost all credibility!

[Reltub]

my firm choice is London South Bank

[Captain Biggles]

Scottish university in the Top 5.

Just.

[OllyThePhilosopher]

The Guardian and Times differ a lot so I disregard both of them.

[Bella_trixxx]

Number 5... jolly good

[Bebbs]

oh yeah number 13

[zoe1989]

number 14

[jismith1989]

Wow, does Manchester really deserve to be that low down? It's in the Russell Group at least.

[Bebbs]

exeter is 3rd for my subject as well!

[prospectivEEconomist]

I think the tables are flawed and miscalculated. How can Birmingham be above Nottingham with the following scores:

Birmingham: 4B, 410, 77%
Nottingham: 5A, 453, 81%

Does anyone know how the tables were calculated?

[Reltub]

Which website offers the most accurate league table?

[fairylight]

Originally Posted by zoe1989

number 14

me too wahoo!

[jismith1989]

Originally Posted by prospectivEEconomist

I think the tables are flawed and miscalculated. How can Birmingham be above Nottingham with the following scores:

Birmingham: 4B, 410, 77%
Nottingham: 5A, 453, 81%

Does anyone know how the tables were calculated?

I'm not saying it is (I don't know), but with those scores it could be. The first one being research (which isn't altogether relevant to undergraduate teaching standards) and the second being A-Level entry results (which is even more irrelevant).

[prospectivEEconomist]

That is for economics by the way. What other factors could contribute to the overall score . By the way why is entry score irrelevant? The better the university the higher the entry score.

[whatwhywhen100]

well that's just silly
UEA over Manchester?

[apotoftea]

Originally Posted by Reltub

Which website offers the most accurate league table?

None of them.

Originally Posted by prospectivEEconomist

I think the tables are flawed and miscalculated. How can Birmingham be above Nottingham with the following scores:

Birmingham: 4B, 410, 77%
Nottingham: 5A, 453, 81%

Does anyone know how the tables were calculated?

a.) The RAE scores are another year older so 7/8 years out of date and b.) this year the Times GUG has included student statisfaction as more of a factor than ever before.

[OhNO!]

sunday times university guide? yes please. sod the times.

[trm90]

Twenty posts and no one has bashed Leicester yet?

I LOVE YOU, TSR

[prospectivEEconomist]

Originally Posted by apotoftea

None of them.



a.) The RAE scores are another year older so 7/8 years out of date and b.) this year the Times GUG has included student statisfaction as more of a factor than ever before.

I don't see any column stating student satisfaction in the subject table.