[Invocation]

I watched a very good series on this by the History Channel called "The Men Who Killed Kennedy". Their conclusion is obvious, and I happen to find the evidence compelling. For example they recently got their hands on a picture taken just after the fatal shot of someone with a gun on the grassy knoll. This fits in with the story of another person who happened to be a couple of meters in front of the shooter who saw the whole thing unfold.

I'll post screenshots and it's main points in due time.

[Demokrat]

Oh and don't forget the gay mafia aswell they're always up to no good!

[Adam83]

you can see it is a conspiracy from the film that exists.

[Plato's Trousers]

Quite how anyone can swallow the obviously bogus notion that Oswald was a lone assassin is beyond me. Anyone who has actually visited Dealey Plaza and studied the evidence will see that there is absolutely no conceivable way he could have done the job. There is simply a ton of evidence against this, but three pieces should be all anyone needs;

1 Forensic tests for nitrate residues showed Oswald had not fired a weapon that day

2 The Mannlicher-Carcano rifle he is alleged to have used was in no way accurate or fast enough to have managed four shots in the 6 seconds available. The target was moving and a considerable distance away. The rifle is bolt-action and slow to re-load. A number of military rifle experts tried this from the same distance as the Schoolbook Depository top floor is from the car and not one of them could manage it.

3. The Zapruder film clearly shows the President's head being thrown backwards by the impact of the final, fatal shot. In addition, at autopsy, the exit wound was at the back of his head and was substantial. Both these facts clearly require a shot from in front of the car. The Schoolbook Depository was behind the car.

And if that is not enough, look at the "magic bullet" and the plainly ludicrous track it is supposed to have taken through two men! And yet this bullet was found in perfect condition, conveniently lying on the gurney when the President was brought in to Parkland Memorial Hospital. Laughable.

[Jampolo]

Ive read alot into this, the bullet hit him from the front, which instantly rules out lee harvey oswald who was behind him, and oswald as killed before he could speak, weird that .

[Jampolo]

(Original post by Plato's Trousers)
2 The Mannlicher-Carcano rifle he is alleged to have used was in no way accurate or fast enough to have managed four shots in the 6 seconds available. The target was moving and a considerable distance away. The rifle is bolt-action and slow to re-load. A number of military rifle experts tried this from the same distance as the Schoolbook Depository top floor is from the car and not one of them could manage it.

I like your point about the rifle, i read that the italian army tested this rifle to find out how fast they could fire it, and it was no where near 6 seconds, it was over minute if i remember correctly.

[Plato's Trousers]

I have given only a few of the points that indicate a conspiracy. There are hundreds. A few more:

1 Oswald was supposedly a communist and that is why he "defected" to the Soviet Union and also why he allegedly assassinated JFK. Why then on his return to the USA was he not prosecuted as a traitor? On the contrary, he was loaned the money for his return flight by the State Dept! He was also given a job with a defence contractor on his return at at time when the East-West tensions were at their highest. He was given a new US passport in 1961 without any problems. Hardly the treatment one would expect for a returning traitor?

2 Also, if Oswald was a communist, why did he spend much of the Summer of 1963 in and out of the offices of Guy Bannister in New Orleans? Bannister was a former FBI agent and well known anti-communist who helped David Ferrie organise and train anti-Castro Cubans for a possible invasion.

3 The House Special Committee on Assassinations found in 1977 (on re-examining the Warren Commission evidence and other evidence) that there was a "probable conspiracy involving two gunmen"

[Aj12]

I find it odd he was shot before his trial. SO I think someone else had a hand in it

[x_muneeb_x]

conspiracy and i think people who do believe it was oswald alone are very naive !

[Smithinson]

(Original post by Plato's Trousers)
1 Forensic tests for nitrate residues showed Oswald had not fired a weapon that day

this is the only one of your points i have a problem with. He was originally arrested for shooting and killing a police officer by the name of J.D. Tippit with a revolver that he bought using the same alias he used to buy the rifle. He was given a paraffin test which both of his hands tested positive for but not his face. His face being negative meant that he had not fired a rifle for at least 24 hours meaning he could not have fired the bullets that killed JFK (no matter where they came from). he was innocent of killing JFK but not Tippit.

I think that once the feds realized who they had they knew they had the perfect fall guy.
I think there was more than one shooter and that the people that did the shooting were dead a few hours after it happened. This is undoubtly(at least in my mind) a govt job.

[Plato's Trousers]

Yes, in fact, since writing that, I have read more about the paraffin test and it is apparently so unreliable as to be virtually useless. So I think you can discount that point.

By the way, anyone who has seen the Oliver Stone movie JFK will have been seriously misled over this whole conspiracy. Jim Garrison made up or falsified most of the evidence in that film (probably why the jury dismissed the case in less than an hour!). There are several excellent books picking apart the Clay Shaw trial and showing just what an appalling travesty it really was.
For example, in that movie (and in the trial) Garrison claims the parade route was changed so that Kennedy had to make a sharp left turn into Elm St. This is a complete fabrication. The parade was always that way (and was published several days earlier by two Dallas newspapers). Indeed, it could only have gone that way, because Main St doesn't allow you to join the Stemmons Freeway north! Quite what Garrison was thinking by making up such an obvious lie, God knows!

[wardragon82]

It was a magic bullet.

A lot of evidence points to the fact that there was some kind of conspiracy. Anyone who believes in the lone gunman theory not only is an idiot but needs to explain why ruby killed oswald and why the magic bullet penetrated about 100 different things.

[pinkpenguin]

(Original post by Plato's Trousers)
3. The Zapruder film clearly shows the President's head being thrown backwards by the impact of the final, fatal shot. In addition, at autopsy, the exit wound was at the back of his head and was substantial. Both these facts clearly require a shot from in front of the car. The Schoolbook Depository was behind the car.

I hear this a lot.

I was at the Michael Collins museum and the people there mentioned that a similar phenomenon happened to Collins - he was shot in the back of the head, yet thrust backwards.

It's due to the kind of bullet that was used, designed to disintegrate upon exit, forcing the head backwards.

I'm not sure there is a conspiracy within the government. Oswald may not have been working alone, but I don't think CIA had direct involvement etc.

The more tragic, imo, is Bobby Kennedy's assassination. What a massive kick to the stomach that must have been.

[Plato's Trousers]

(Original post by pinkpenguin)
I hear this a lot.

I was at the Michael Collins museum and the people there mentioned that a similar phenomenon happened to Collins - he was shot in the back of the head, yet thrust backwards.

It's due to the kind of bullet that was used, designed to disintegrate upon exit, forcing the head backwards.

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yes, I agree. Having looked into this in more detail, I think this is a false claim. In fact, just about all the facts in Oliver Stone's movie JFK are false. Poor Clay Shaw was subjected to a truly absurd trial. No wonder the jury acquitted him in less than an hour!