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Old 29-06-2008: 29th June 2008 01:50 #1 
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Okay, so I've read a few threads in which students ask about "strategic college selection" in order to have a better chance at getting into Oxford. But, as an American my chances of getting into Oxford are already very slim I have heard, however, that some poorer colleges accept internationals at a higher rate because we pay a lot of tuition. I will be paying full international tuition and I'm applying for Experimental Psych. I've looked at a few colleges and Catz seems nice so does St. Johns, Somerville, Magdalen, and Teddy Hall. Which colleges, if any, will give be "easier" to get into? My AP scores are in my profile, it's either 5,5,5,5,5 or 5,5,5,5,5,4 so I already have a half-decent shot at admission. Thanks for all the help
 
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Basically you should really apply to whatever college you like most, because in the end you can't really beat the system. I will, however, tell you that Magdalen and St John's are anything but poor, so if you're basing your applications on college poverty you'd probably want to leave out those two.
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fortunately, admissions decisions are made by tutors rather than the bursary so i'm afraid you're not going to be able to bribe your way in. Even if you could, there'd be people willing to offer a lot more than university fees.
 
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I was all ready to jump all over you. "Me! ME! I'll have your money!!"

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College admissions do not work on the basis of money. Sorry, dude, but it's a combination of merit and luck.
 
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Cccht.

This isn't America.
 
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America: this is why we have a dick as world leader now.
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Cccht.

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in total agreement.
 
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America: this is why we have a dick as world leader now.
On a similar note, isn't it pathetic that Ivy-league-level higher education in the US is restricted to so many capable students due to the financial barriers. Also, what's with the Skull and Bones society at Yale?!

P.S. Yes, I'm sorry, but your thread most definitely does deserve to be hijacked.
 
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Lots of Americans seem to go to Pembroke, and it is not the richest of colleges
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St Johns is stinking rich, so you might want to avoid them, although they're a lush college.
 
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Lots of Americans seem to go to Pembroke, and it is not the richest of colleges

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Originally Posted by jismith1989
On a similar note, isn't it pathetic that Ivy-league-level higher education in the US is restricted to so many capable students due to the financial barriers. Also, what's with the Skull and Bones society at Yale?!

P.S. Yes, I'm sorry, but your thread most definitely does deserve to be hijacked.
Most students at Ivies are funded and do not pay the full amount, esp if they are from a lower income bracket, so the financial barrier is a crock.

Skull & Bones is not the only secret society at Yale - but what about it? Check out the Scroll & Key, impressive list of members there.
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Most students at Ivies are funded and do not pay the full amount, esp if they are from a lower income bracket, so the financial barrier is a crock.

Skull & Bones is not the only secret society at Yale - but what about it? Check out the Scroll & Key, impressive list of members there.
Really? Funded by the government or business? If it's the latter, I much prefer the idea of state-funded bursaries, as of course industry cannot be expected to provide an equitable education system.

Those kind of societies are going to spring up at all elite institutions, by virtue of them being elite institutions; it does seem a little nefarious and pre-pubescent though. Club membership should not be a prerequisite to anything (if indeed it is) in this modern age of ours.
 
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wheres my money!?! wheres the freaking money
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Legacy admissions are a significant proportion at e.g. Harvard and therefore directly affect 'normal' people's chances...Hardly at all fair, though I realise that Harvard is a _private_ institution.

But we digress :p
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Legacy admissions are a significant proportion at e.g. Harvard and therefore directly affect 'normal' people's chances...Hardly at all fair, though I realise that Harvard is a _private_ institution.

But we digress :p
Yes, of course. Private universities should really be scrapped; it's such an unlevel playing field. But then I think all private education should be abolished (having been to two private schools myself).
 
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Really? Funded by the government or business? If it's the latter, I much prefer the idea of state-funded bursaries, as of course industry cannot be expected to provide an equitable education system.

I believe the funding comes from the universities. Yale, at least, does 'need-blind' admissions, then charges higher or lower fees based on the household's income.
 
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Okay, so I've read a few threads in which students ask about "strategic college selection" in order to have a better chance at getting into Oxford. But, as an American my chances of getting into Oxford are already very slim I have heard, however, that some poorer colleges accept internationals at a higher rate because we pay a lot of tuition. I will be paying full international tuition and I'm applying for Experimental Psych. I've looked at a few colleges and Catz seems nice so does St. Johns, Somerville, Magdalen, and Teddy Hall. Which colleges, if any, will give be "easier" to get into? My AP scores are in my profile, it's either 5,5,5,5,5 or 5,5,5,5,5,4 so I already have a half-decent shot at admission. Thanks for all the help

It may interest you to know that the psychology tutor at Hertford is American, and easily flattered. Hertford is also a pretty cool college.

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